Relativity Book on General Relativity -- especially on Black Holes and Graviational Waves

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The discussion focuses on recommendations for books on General Relativity, particularly concerning Black Holes and Gravitational Waves. It highlights a preference for texts that balance mathematical rigor with clarity. Key suggestions include Zee's book for advanced graduate students and Wald's book, which some participants argue is suitable for undergraduates despite its graduate-level categorization. Kip Thorne's works are praised for their accessibility and depth in explaining black holes. Additionally, the conversation mentions free resources by Benjamin Crowell and Sergei Winitzki, emphasizing their clear writing and practical topics. The thread also references previous discussions and lists of recommended titles, underscoring the variety of resources available for different levels of understanding in General Relativity.
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Hi. (I'm sorry for my poor English.)
I'm looking for a good book on General Relativity, specially on Black Holes and Graviational Waves. I got Schultz book once ago, but it has a fuzzy notation and does not deal with the math as I suppose to. I know the basics of Differential Geometry, Topology, Rimmanian Manifolds, and of course, Special Relativity. So what a graduated book would you recommend me?
 
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Some folks like Zee (advanced graduate level):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/069114558X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

and others like Wald (undergraduate level):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0226870332/?tag=pfamazon01-20

For black holes Kip Thorne's books are really good at explaining things:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393351378/?tag=pfamazon01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393312763/?tag=pfamazon01-20

He also did a book with Wheeler that was the definitive standard for General Relatiity but lacks some of the more recent research:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0716703440/?tag=pfamazon01-20

There's a couple of free ebooks here by Benjamin Crowell that are pretty good for the undergraduate/graduate level:

www.lightandmatter.com

We also have a thread on it that's a couple of years old:

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/a-good-book-on-general-special-relativity.512125/

Lastly, here's a list of other titles to consider:

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/363/getting-started-self-studying-general-relativity
 
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jedishrfu said:
Some folks like Zee (advanced graduate level):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/069114558X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

and others like Wald (undergraduate level):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0226870332/?tag=pfamazon01-20

For black holes Kip Thorne's books are really good at explaining things:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393351378/?tag=pfamazon01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393312763/?tag=pfamazon01-20

He also did a book with Wheeler that was the definitive standard for General Relatiity but lacks some of the more recent research:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0716703440/?tag=pfamazon01-20

There's a couple of free ebooks here by Benjamin Crowell that are pretty good for the undergraduate/graduate level:

www.lightandmatter.com

We also have a thread on it that's a couple of years old:

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/a-good-book-on-general-special-relativity.512125/

Lastly, here's a list of other titles to consider:

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/363/getting-started-self-studying-general-relativity
Thank you ! I will try to check out these books
 
Weinberg's book specifically covers these topics.
 
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snatchingthepi said:
Weinberg's book specifically covers these topics.
I got this book after tht a couple days ago, and I like it!
 
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o_O Oh no, snap...

! I just ordered some books and did not check here first!

Ohhhh!

Next time, I will conquer the world!
 
jedishrfu said:
and others like Wald (undergraduate level):
I thought Wald's General Relativity (judging by the reviews and the preface of the book itself) was a graduate level textbook.
 
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Dragon27 said:
I thought Wald's General Relativity (judging by the reviews and the preface of the book itself) was a graduate level textbook.

Wald wrote a resource letter on teaching GR to grads and undergrads:

https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0511073

He doesn't explicitly say what books he uses. At the end of the letter, in the bibliography he categorizes his book as a graduate book so you are right.

In my undergraduate days, I took an independent study under one physics prof who used Wheeler's Gravitation book provided as a preprint which is at the same level as Wald so I can believe that there are some undergrads who are using Wald's book to understand GR.

In this article they hint at using Wald as well as several other books as a basis for an undergraduate course in GR:

http://people.carleton.edu/~nchriste/pto000041.pdf
 
jedishrfu said:
In my undergraduate days, I took an independent study under one physics prof who used Wheeler's Gravitation book provided as a preprint which is at the same level as Wald so I can believe that there are some undergrads who are using Wald's book to understand GR.

MTW's Gravitation gets to the same level as Wald's General Relativity on topics they have in common, so they're on the same level in that sense. However, Gravitation has a slower paced, more conversational style and starts at an easier level.
 
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