Boom problem using rotational equilibrium methods

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The discussion revolves around solving a boom problem using rotational equilibrium methods, where the goal is to find the unknowns T, V, and H based on given variables. The user is struggling with calculating torques correctly and has received guidance on selecting an appropriate pivot point for torque calculations. A key point raised is the importance of accurately determining the radii for tension and load connections, which affects the torque equations. After clarifying these details, the user feels confident about solving for T and subsequently using it to find V and H. The conversation emphasizes the collaborative nature of problem-solving in physics.
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URGENT! Boom problem using rotational equilibrium methods

Hi!

Here is a picture of the problem I'm about to explain... http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l168/synovial/boom.jpg

My professor did not give us numbers to use, just variables.

The goal of the problem is to find the 3 unknowns: T, V, and H. The given variables are the entire length of the boom (L--not pictured), mass of the boom, mass of the load, \Theta, x, and p.

The rope is connected to distance x from the end. The load hangs at distance p from the end. The boom's center of gravity is in the middle.

I know that I am supposed to find all of the forces in the X and Y directions, but I can't seem to calculate the torques correctly.

\SigmaFx = 0
0 = H -Tcos\Theta

\SigmaFy = 0
0 = V + Tsin\Theta-Wboom-Wload

\Sigma\tauFa = 0
0 = \tauT perpindicular + \tauV + \tauH + \tauW boom + \tauW load

Can someone please help me? Thanks!
 
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qnney--always start torque problems by picking a good pivot point! Where do you want yours to be? (HINT: Put it at the point where you have the most unknown forces acting).

Don't hesitate to ask more questions if you get stuck again!
 


I think a good place for the pivot point would be at the intersection of the V and H forces. Does this work?
 


That's what I used.
 


Ok, so far I think I've figured out:

Sum of the torques = 0
0 = -Tsintheta(L-p) + Wboom(L/2) + Wload (L-x)
 


Er... well, that's not consistent with the drawing you made OR with the description of the problem, but it's close.

The issue seems to be with your radii. The tension connects to the beam at a radius of (L-x) according to the text of the problem, and at (L-p-x) according to the picture. By both accounts, the load connects to the beam at a radius of (L-p)

It looks like you just got a bit mixed up, but otherwise, you seem to be on the right track.
 


Thanks so so much! I wasn't so sure if I was getting those right.

So now I think I can solve for T in this problem and then plug that value back into the \SigmaFx and \SigmaFy equations to get V and H.

:)
 


Looks like you're on the home stretch now!
 


Thanks for your help!
 
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Hey, no problemo!
 
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