Building a hydrostatic pressure chamber

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and construction of a hydrostatic pressure chamber intended for testing the behavior of cartilage tissue under physiological pressures ranging from 5 to 15 MPa. Participants explore material options, structural considerations, and safety concerns related to high-pressure environments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using heavy gauge Acrylic/Plexiglass as a potential material for the chamber, depending on the design.
  • Another participant warns that 15 MPa is comparable to pressures found in scuba diving tanks and emphasizes the importance of safety during initial tests.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about material durability under high pressure and acknowledges the need for further research before proceeding with the design.
  • One participant notes that while 15 MPa is manageable for many materials in tension or compression, localized stresses in the chamber's design could exceed this pressure, particularly in flat-panel structures compared to cylindrical or spherical designs.
  • A later reply references the importance of structural design, mentioning that areas such as valve connections may require thicker materials for safety.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for careful consideration of material selection and structural design due to the high pressures involved. However, there is no consensus on the best approach or specific materials, and concerns about safety and design complexities remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential for localized stresses to exceed 15 MPa depending on the chamber's design, indicating that assumptions about material strength may vary based on specific structural choices.

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Hello!

I am currently looking into building a small hydrostatic pressure chamber to test the behaviour of a piece of tissue (cartilage) under physiological pressures. The pressure range should be between 5-15 MPa.

I need to measure the volume change/deformation of the tissue, so the chamber would need to be transparent. Ideally I would like to be able to videofilm the process, from a side view. I have an Instron compression machine that I can use to move a piston. However, I am bit uncertain about the design. What transparent material can withstand such high pressures?

Any help or direction to sources of information would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Heavy gauge Acrylic/Plexiglass sheet or tubing/piping would likely fulfill your requirements depending on your design.
 
Bear in mind that 15 MPa (about 150 atmospheres) is getting into the same pressure range as a scuba diving air tank.

If you still want to design your own pressure chamber (given your level of "uncertainty" about how to do that), make sure you aren't standing anywhere near it the first time you test it!
 
Thanks! Yes, I am a bit hesitant over the high pressure and what materials can actually withstand it. And as you so correctly point out I need to do a whole lot more research before the plans will come alive (and I might just end up aborting the mission completely). But figured I might just as well post here see if anyone had any brilliant ideas before I go talk to the work-shop and see what they say.

Thanks for both of yours help though.
 
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AnnaC said:
Yes, I am a bit hesitant over the high pressure and what materials can actually withstand it.

The high pressure" in itself is not much of an issue. Almost any material would withstand a stress of 15MPa in direct tension or compression.

The issue is that at some places in the complete structure you will probably have stresses which are much higher than 15MPa, and the stresses will depend very much on the complete design. For example a "rectangular box", with flat panels for easy observation of what is inside, would be much more highly stressed than a cylinder or a sphere. (That's why diving air bottles are not rectangular boxes!)
 
AlephZero said:
The issue is that at some places in the complete structure you will probably have stresses which are much higher than 15MPa, and the stresses will depend very much on the complete design. ... (That's why diving air bottles are not rectangular boxes!)
And where the valve screws in is much thicker. This might be helpful for the OPs design:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:gQRUGIAkX_AJ:faculty.washington.edu/vkumar/me356/pv_rules.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESh62sRPl53jTbfGItKY3_1ZaTCVBSG015NmYix-tuBacLRg1M1ykUn1qAU0kIHkSq0alnxCWfWK3GPSwOibfaUyCi1e9Syk9mGpu5kfX2Rv5ynfGPAgbWkupgODdPsCsxyggp7X&sig=AHIEtbQFwsGhUffnTx1Cf5dtgCFoWKil7g
 

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