Bullet and Block Circular Problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a bullet striking a pendulum, where the goal is to determine the minimum velocity required for the pendulum to complete a circular loop after an inelastic collision. The user attempts to solve the problem using conservation of momentum and energy principles but arrives at an incorrect answer, specifically option (c). Key equations include the conservation of momentum and the relationship between kinetic and potential energy. The user is advised to consider the forces acting on the pendulum at the top of the loop to find the correct minimum velocity. Clarifying the dynamics at the top of the loop is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement


I am going through past Olympiad qualifying exams as practice for this year's test. I came upon the following problem in the 2008 F=ma and continue to come up with the wrong answer. I keep coming up with C and that is not the answer provided in the answer key.


22. A bullet of mass m1 strikes a pendulum of mass m2 suspended from a pivot by a string of length
L with a horizontal velocity v0. The collision is perfectly inelastic and the bullet sticks to the
bob. Find the minimum velocity v0 such that the bob (with the bullet inside) completes a circular
vertical loop.
(a) 2√Lg
(b) √5Lg
(c) (m1 + m2)2√Lg/m1
(d) (m1 − m2)√Lg/m2
(e) (m1 + m2)√5Lg/m1




Homework Equations



m1v1= (m1+m2)v2
1/2 mv ^2 = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



m1v1 = (m1+m2)v2
v2 = (m1v1)/(m1+m2)

So the kinetic energy of the block should be:
1/2 (m1+m2)v2^2
Then I set the initial kinetic energy of the block equal to the potential energy it would have at height 2L.

1/2 (m1+m2)v2^2 = 2L(m1+m2)g

Since v2 = (m1v1)/(m1+m2):

1/2(m1+m2)*((m1v1)/(m1+m2))^2 = 2L(m1+m2)g

m1+m2 should cancel:

((m1v1)/(m1+m2))^2 = 4Lg

(m1v1)^2 / (m1+m2) ^2 = 4Lg

m1 ^2 * v1 ^ 2 = 4Lg / ((m1+m2) ^2)

Take the Square Root of the whole thing:

m1 * v1 = 2sqrt(Lg)/(m1+m2)

SO my answer is (c) (m1 + m2)2√Lg/m1, which is apparently incorrect.

If someone could help me correct this that would be great.

Thanks.
 
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Then I set the initial kinetic energy of the block equal to the potential energy it would have at height 2L.
At the hight 2L the block has kinetic energy as well as the potential velocity.
To find the velocity at the top for minimum tension( = 0), equate the centripetal force to the weight of the block.
 
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