Bullet & Block Homework: KE, Momentum & Energy Loss

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The problem involves a 40-gram bullet fired into a 5 kg block of wood, with a focus on kinetic energy, momentum, and energy loss during the impact. The original poster seeks to determine the distance the block moves, the time it takes to come to rest, and the percentage of energy lost on impact.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum and work-energy principles to solve for distance, time, and energy loss. Some participants question the assumptions about momentum conservation during the impact and the relationship between momentum and energy. Others raise concerns about the bullet's weight and its implications for the calculations.

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Participants are actively discussing the validity of the original poster's approach, with some providing guidance on considering the effects of friction and the need for careful unit conversion. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the conservation of momentum and energy.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the percentage of energy lost, and some participants express uncertainty about the appropriateness of the work-energy equations in this context. The original poster's calculations and assumptions are under scrutiny, particularly concerning the bullet's mass and the impact dynamics.

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Homework Statement


40-g Bullet is fired with a velocity of magnitude v0=700 m/s into a 5kg block of wood. Coefficient of kinetic friction = 0.6.
a) how far will the block move

b) how long after impact does it come to rest

c) percentage of energy lost on impact

(block has no velocity until bullet is completely embedded in block)


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The Attempt at a Solution



mass bullet: m = 40g = .04kg
mass block: M = 5kg
velocity bullet = 700 m/s
uk = 0.6


KE of bullet
1/2*0.04*700^2 = 9800J

Conservation of Momentum Work Energy

mv+0 = (M+m)v -uk(m+M)gd=-1/2(m+M)v^2
0.04(700) = 5.04v ukgd=1/2v^2

v = 5.56m/s 0.6(9.81)d=0.5(5.56)^2
d = 2.63

a) 2.63m

b) D=v*t t=d/v
t = 2.63/5.56
t= 0.473s

c) kinetic energy bullet = 9800J
Kinetic energy of block and bullet = 77.9J

%= 77.9/9800 == 0.07%

I am most confused on the percentage of energy lost?

 
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Take care. The momentum is conserved during the impact, as we can assume it so fast that the force of friction does practically no work during that time. After the impact, there is force on the block, so its momentum will change.

Momentum is not equal to energy.

Energy is not conserved. ehild
 
Also, take care with the units. Bullet are generally measured in grains (abbreviated "gr"), not grams (abbreviated "g").

40 g (grams) would be a rather large bullet, but not out of the realm of possibility. A .50 BMG shell will have a bullet weighing anywhere from about 42 g to 52 g which equates to around 647 gr to 800 gr.

By contrast, a .44 magnum bullet can weigh around 340 gr (22 g)
 
The weight of the bullet is 40 grams, sounds large to me as well.

Will work energy equations work better here? Or am I on the right track?
 
If you determine the acceleration of the block+bullet (due to friction), then for part b you have initial velocity, final velocity (zero) and acceleration. A simple kinematic equation relates them with time.
 

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