Calculate Hole Depth: Stone-Drop Time Problem with Speed of Sound in Air

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A spelunker drops a stone into a hole, and the sound of it hitting the bottom is heard 1.24 seconds later, with the speed of sound in air being 343 m/s. The problem involves two components: the time it takes for the stone to fall (t1) and the time for the sound to travel back up (t2), which together equal 1.24 seconds. The equations of motion are established as d = 4.9t1² for the stone's fall and d = 343t2 for the sound's travel, leading to the equation 4.9t1² = 343t2. By substituting t2 with (1.24 - t1), the problem can be solved for t1, yielding a depth of approximately 7.279 meters for the hole. The calculations show the importance of correctly setting up the equations for both motion components to find the solution.
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A spelunker (cave explorer) drops a stone from rest into a hole. The speed of sound is 343 m/s in air, and the sound of the stone striking the bottom is heard 1.24 s after the stone is dropped. How deep is the hole?


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I attempted to follow the steps (substituting different values) in the post above; however, I do not understand the process adequately (nor did I come up with the correct answer),
 
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There are two components to this. The stone falling to the bottom of the well and the sound traveling to the top of the well. You need to make an equation for both parts and also an equation for the total time.
 
Okay so you know d=4.9t^{2}_{1} on the way down. On the way up d=343t_{2} and these two distances are equal. Lastly you are given that t_{1}+t_{2}=1.24s

If you set the equations of motions equal to each other you are left with an equation of time. 4.9t^{2}_{1}=343t_{2}

What could you substitute in for t_{2} that would let you solve for t_{1} ? Keep this relationship in mind t_{1}+t_{2}=1.24s !
 
Thank you both very much! From this, t=1.21878 (disregarding the negative value yielded from the quadratic equation.

I then plugged in the value to the equation:
0*1.219+.5*9.8*1.219^2=7.279
 
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