Calculate Pressure Ratio of Helium and Argon with Equal Mass at Same Temperature

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The discussion focuses on calculating the pressure ratio of helium and argon in identical containers with equal mass and temperature. Participants confirm that the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) applies, emphasizing that the volume remains constant for both gases. The key calculation reveals that the pressure ratio P2/P1 equals 10, indicating that argon has a significantly higher pressure than helium due to its greater molar mass. The correct answer to the pressure ratio question is confirmed as option b) 10. The conversation also briefly touches on another problem related to gas behavior under changing conditions.
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Homework Statement



In 2 identical containers we have equal mass of helium and Argon at the same temperature.The ratio of the 2 pressures (pressure 1 and pressure 2) knowing that μ helium= 4 kg/kmol and μ argon= 40 kg/kmol is:
a 0.1 b 10 c 5 d 40 e 1/5

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The Attempt at a Solution


i don't know
 
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What macroscopic equation gives the behaviour of ideal gases?
 
idk tell me
i got bad marks at physics
 
idk =?
 
pv=nrt?
i don't know man physics is not my main thing
 
pV=nRT

Correct.

Now see what is identical in both cases and hence try to see on what physical quantity does p depend.
 
p=nrt/v
?
can you please give more hints?
 
Temp is the same for both.
What else is the same?
 
R constant and T
n is the quantity
EDIT:Was joking man i know how to do it p1v=m/miu RT
 
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  • #10
Correct.
But if you read the problem CAREFULLY you will notice that there is something else constant.
 
  • #11
HAHAAHAH man now i don't understand
p1v=U x R
??
 
  • #12
Which gas has the bigger volume?
 
  • #13
grzz said:
Which gas has the bigger volume?

Argon i think.
 
  • #14
is the argon in a bigger container?
 
  • #15
grzz said:
is the argon in a bigger container?

no. what to do?
 
  • #16
Each gas in an IDENTICAL container. Hence the volume ...
 
  • #17
Ok so volume is constant.Here is what i made so far.
Find p1 and p2
P1=1/μ helium *R
P2=1/μ argon *R

and then P2/P1 = 10.

so from those answers: a) 0.1 b)10 c)5 d)40 e)1/5

the right one is b?
 
  • #18
P argon/P helium = 0.1
 
  • #19
P helium/P argon = 10
 
  • #20
grzz said:
P helium/P argon = 10

so its 10?
i did it good?
can you help me at the other problem too? :D
 
  • #21
which problem?
 
  • #22
At boiling whit 1K(kelvin) of a gas whit constant pressure the volume is 3 times bigger.The initial temperature of the gas in this process has the value:
a. 6K b 0.5 K c 10K d 100K e 500K
 
  • #23
Which equation gives the behaviour of an ideal gas?
 
  • #24
pv/t=p2v2/t2
 
  • #25
Cross out the P because it is the same on both sides.
 
  • #26
yup so v/t = v2/t2 .
What i do next?
 
  • #27
Now put in the values you know to get what you do not yet know.
 
  • #28
So T2= t1 +1k?
V2 = 3V1?
WE know that the second volume is 3x bigger then the first volume.
 
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