Calculate speed v in crossfield hall effect

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of a metal strip moving through a magnetic field, given its dimensions and the measured potential difference. The relationship between electric field (E), velocity (v), and magnetic field (B) is clarified, emphasizing the distinction between vector equations and magnitude calculations. The negative sign in the vector equation reflects the direction of forces, while the magnitude equation simplifies this to absolute values. The user seeks clarification on why the negative sign is omitted when calculating speed. Understanding these concepts is crucial for accurately applying physics principles in this context.
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metal strip 6.66 cm long, 1.11 cm wide, and 0.837 mm thick moves with constant velocity through a uniform magnetic field B = 1.55 mT directed perpendicular to the strip, as shown in Fig. 28-37. A potential difference of 2.99 µV is measured between points x and y across the strip. Calculate the speed v.


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Ok i know Fnet= qE+q(V x B) and then set equal to zero cause equilibrium and get E=-q x V

(the x means cross product)

So now explain to me Why E=Vb in this case. Then i use V=E/B to get my speed velocity. But i don't just understand why the negative sign is dropped of ? Is it because its absolute value or cause Electric Field is point from a + to a - potential, in the x-axis direction ?

Thanks for your help
 
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Hi th3plan,

th3plan said:

Homework Statement




metal strip 6.66 cm long, 1.11 cm wide, and 0.837 mm thick moves with constant velocity through a uniform magnetic field B = 1.55 mT directed perpendicular to the strip, as shown in Fig. 28-37. A potential difference of 2.99 µV is measured between points x and y across the strip. Calculate the speed v.


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4905/wirept9.gif


Ok i know Fnet= qE+q(V x B) and then set equal to zero cause equilibrium and get E=-q x V

(the x means cross product)

So now explain to me Why E=Vb in this case. Then i use V=E/B to get my speed velocity. But i don't just understand why the negative sign is dropped of ? Is it because its absolute value or cause Electric Field is point from a + to a - potential, in the x-axis direction ?

The sign is different because the equations are two different things. The equation with the minus sign is a vector equation (it should be \vec E = - \vec v\times\vec B); the other equation is only dealing with the magnitudes.

For example, suppose I am holding a weight W by applying a force F upwards. The vector equation for equilibrium would be

<br /> \vec F = -\vec W<br />
which means that my applied force is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to the weight. If I wanted to calculate the magnitude of the force, I might write:

<br /> F = W<br />
which just means | \vec F | = | \vec W|.
 
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