Calculate the speed of a boy at the end of the chute

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a boy sliding down a water chute, specifically at points B and C. For part (a), the boy's speed at the end of the chute is determined using energy principles, yielding a speed of 12.52 m/s. For part (b), it is clarified that the boy should be treated as a projectile when entering the water, with a calculated speed of 13.92 m/s. The 30-degree angle at point B is noted to be relevant for understanding the motion but not necessary for the speed calculation. The conversation emphasizes the use of both energy conservation and projectile motion principles to arrive at the final speeds.
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Homework Statement


14.11 A boy slides down a water chute, starting from rest a A. Neglecting friction
determine his speed (a) at the end B of the chute; and (b) on entering the water at C.

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for (a):
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for (b):

Do I have to treat the boy at B as a projectile?
 

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Alexanddros81 said:
Do I have to treat the boy at B as a projectile?
The answer is "No" if all you have to do is find the speed at C. You would if you had to find the time he sails through the air.
 
Am I using again principle of work and energy for (b)?
Why the 30deg angle is given at point B? Is it used in the calculations?
 
Alexanddros81 said:
Am I using again principle of work and energy for (b)?
Yes.
Alexanddros81 said:
Why the 30deg angle is given at point B? Is it used in the calculations?
Probably to show you that you can use energy considerations or projectile motion and get the same answer either way. Try it and see for yourself.
 
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Alexanddros81 said:
for (b):

Do I have to treat the boy at B as a projectile?
Yes, you must treat the boy as a projectile. The boy will have a horizontal velocity you calculated above and zero vertical velocity. Zero horizontal acceleration and gravity pulling downwards.

You could also do this with the work energy principle of course, if you wanted. As explained by kuruman
 
lekh2003 said:
The boy will have a horizontal velocity you calculated above and zero vertical velocity.
The launch speed as calculated by OP is 12.52 m/s. The velocity is directed at 30o above the horizontal and has both a vertical and a horizontal component.
 
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kuruman said:
The launch speed as calculated by OP is 12.52 m/s. The velocity is directed at 30o above the horizontal and has both a vertical and a horizontal component.
Oh yes, sorry. I made a mistake.
 
So here is my solution using work and energy principle:

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Is this correct?
Also I used projectile motion and I got ##v_C=13.92 m/s##. I guess it is the precission in the decimal places of the numbers used for the calculations.
 

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Alexanddros81 said:
I guess it is the precission in the decimal places of the numbers used for the calculations.
I am sure it is round off errors. Also note that for part (b) you could have conserved energy directly from A to C and used ##U_{A \rightarrow C}=W(10~m)##.
 
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