Calculate the spring constant k

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The discussion revolves around calculating the spring constant k for a rod pivoting around one end while resting on a compressed spring. The user initially attempted to use energy conservation equations involving potential energy and spring energy but realized their approach was incorrect when calculating kinetic energy at point B. They later found a solution using points A and C instead of A and B, indicating a misunderstanding of kinetic energy calculations. The user seeks clarification on whether to consider only rotational energy or a combination of translational and rotational energy due to the rod's pivot point. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly identifying energy types in rotational dynamics.
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hi,
i am preparing for the test and have the following question.
as usual i don't see where my mistake is.
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A thin uniform rod has mass M = 0.5 kg and length L= 0.55 m. It has a pivot at one end and is at rest on a compressed spring as shown in (A). The rod is released from an angle θ1= 63.0o, and moves through its horizontal position at (B) and up to (C) where it stops with θ2 = 105.0o, and then falls back down. Friction at the pivot is negligible. Calculate the speed of the CM at (B).

this i found. 1.023 m/s

The spring in (A) has a length of 0.11 m and at (B) a length of 0.14 m. Calculate the spring constant k.

ok so i decided to use a and b to calculate.
i decided to use the height of the rod in b as hight zero.
this means that in a the system has two energies. the potential and the spring.
the equation of energy conservation is:
mgh+0.5kx^2=0.5mv^2
thus
-0.5*9.81*0.55/2*cos(63)+0.5*k*0.03^2=0.5*0.5*1.023^2
but it is wrong.

thanks
 

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ok.
so i managed so solve it but with a and c and not a and b.
this means of course that i calculate the kinetic energy in b wrong.
can u help and explain how it should be done?
just 0.5mv^2 or just 0.5Iw^2 or their sum?
what do i do when

thanks a lot
 
would it be fair to say
that it has only rotational energy becuase it is fixed at one end?

thanks
 
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