Calculate the voltage drop of the train (Picture included)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the voltage drop over a train in a circuit. Initially, the poster calculated the voltage drop using only the resistor directly before the train, leading to an incorrect answer. The teacher clarified that the total resistance of the entire circuit must be considered to determine the voltage drop accurately. After further assistance, the poster recalculated using the total resistance, arriving at a voltage drop of 1444.8 volts, which matched the teacher's answer. This highlights the importance of accounting for all resistances in the circuit to find the correct voltage drop.
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Hello guys, so I had a homework and I couldn't understand the point of my teacher. The question goes like this:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg3/scaled.php?server=3&filename=21976607.jpg&res=medium

So the question is,
"Calculate the voltage drop over the TRAIN when it is at the position indicated"

Alright so he asked for the voltage that goes to the train, therefore,
V=IR

V=1500
I=300
R=The resistor the current will go through before it hits the train which is 0.140

V=300*0.140 ----> V=42
So the Voltage that will go through the train is going to be 1500-42 ------> v=1458


My teacher said it's wrong, I should calculate the total resistance of the circle which is 0.140+0.044 and then multiply by the current, but I don't understand! the question asked about the resistance over the train only not over the whole circle, anyone can help?
 
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Simmer said:
Hello guys, so I had a homework and I couldn't understand the point of my teacher. The question goes like this:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg3/scaled.php?server=3&filename=21976607.jpg&res=medium

So the question is,
"Calculate the voltage drop over the TRAIN when it is at the position indicated"

Alright so he asked for the voltage that goes to the train, therefore,
V=IR

V=1500
I=300
R=The resistor the current will go through before it hits the train which is 0.140

V=300*0.140 ----> V=42
So the Voltage that will go through the train is going to be 1500-42 ------> v=1458


My teacher said it's wrong, I should calculate the total resistance of the circle which is 0.140+0.044 and then multiply by the current, but I don't understand! the question asked about the resistance over the train only not over the whole circle, anyone can help?
I think you mean that he asked for the voltage over the train, that is, the voltage someone on the train would measure if he had a meter and measured from the "top" of the train (overhead wire) to the "bottom" of the train (track rail). That is the potential drop across the train. It happens to be what's left of the total potential (1500V) when all the drops due to other resistances in the whole circuit path are accounted for. Your teacher is correct.
 
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gneill said:
I think you mean that he asked for the voltage over the train, that is, the voltage someone on the train would measure if he had a meter and measured from the "top" of the train (overhead wire) to the "bottom" of the train (track rail). That is the potential drop across the train. It happens to be what's left of the total potential (1500V) when all the drops due to other resistances in the whole circuit path are accounted for. Your teacher is correct.


Hello

Thank you for your help, now I understand it

If we calculate the total resistance of the whole circle, it will be

R total=V/I ----> R total =1500/300 ----> R total =5
Now by taking out the resistor 0.140 and the resistor 0.044 from the total resistance, it will be 4.816, this is the resistance of the engine of the train, now calculating the Voltage
V=IR -----> V= 4.816 * 300 ------> Voltage drop over the train engine is going to be 1444.8 which is the same answer as my teacher gave me


Thank you very much for your help!
 
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