How do I calculate voltage drops and currents in a resistor circuit problem?

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The discussion revolves around calculating voltage drops and currents in a resistor circuit, specifically focusing on a scenario with switches that alter the configuration of the resistors. The subject area includes circuit analysis and application of Ohm's law.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of Ohm's law and Kirchhoff's voltage law (KVL) to determine current and voltage drops across resistors in different configurations. Questions arise regarding the calculation of voltage across R1 and the implications of shorting R2 when the switches are closed. There is also a suggestion to explore a relationship between resistances based on current equality in different circuit configurations.

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Some participants confirm the correctness of earlier reasoning and calculations, while others propose further exploration of the relationships between resistances and currents. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations and approaches being considered.

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Participants note the complexity of the circuit and the potential for simplification, as well as the need to clarify assumptions regarding the configuration of the resistors when switches are open or closed.

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Relevant equations:
V=IR

Attempt at solution:

When the switches are open, R1, R2 and R3 are in series so the current in that case would be 12 V/ (2 ohms + 3 ohms + 3 ohms) = 1.5 A. When the switches are closed, the current across R3 is still 1.5 A, so the voltage drop across R3 is 1.5 A * 3 ohms = 4.5 V. I don't know how to calculate the voltage drops across other resistors and the currents through them. How do I proceed? I know we can ignore R2 when the switches are closed since it gets shorted, and I know R and R3 are in parallel when the switches are closed.
 
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Your reasoning so far is correct.
subzero0137 said:
so the voltage drop across R3 is 1.5 A * 3 ohms = 4.5 V.
Yes.
So, what is the voltage across R1? Apply KVL to the loop containing ε, R3 and R1.
 
cnh1995 said:
Your reasoning so far is correct.

Yes.
So, what is the voltage across R1? Apply KVL to the loop containing ε, R3 and R1.

ε - (I*R1) - (1.5A *R3) = 12 V - (I*R1) - (1.5*3) = 0 therefore I*R1 = 7.5 V. The current across R1 is 7.5/3 = 2.5 A, therefore the current across R = 1 A. Since the voltage drop across R and R3 is the same (4.5 V), the resistance of R is 4.5/1 = 4.5 ohms. Is that correct?
 
subzero0137 said:
ε - (I*R1) - (1.5A *R3) = 12 V - (I*R1) - (1.5*3) = 0 therefore I*R1 = 7.5 V. The current across R1 is 7.5/3 = 2.5 A, therefore the current across R = 1 A. Since the voltage drop across R and R3 is the same (4.5 V), the resistance of R is 4.5/1 = 4.5 ohms. Is that correct?
It is perfect! :smile:
 
Complicated simplification?
If we call the unknown resistance R, R4, then does everybody agree that this problem gives in general

R4/R1 = R3/R2
as the condition for currents in R3 equal for both cases?
A formula (recalling a bridge balancing condition) that seems to be 'suggestive' - but I don't know what it suggests. Can the circuits be switched around somehow to make it obvious what the answer should be? Is there some known principle involved? Duality or something?
 
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