Calculating Angular Speed After Spoke Shortening in Rotating System

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The problem involves a rotating system of small objects connected by spokes, with an initial angular speed of 2.0 rev/s. The inquiry focuses on determining the new angular speed after the spokes are shortened to a specific length, with a contextual reference to similar phenomena in astrophysics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the length of the spokes and the angular speed, with one participant attempting a calculation based on the new length. Others question the conservation principles involved, particularly regarding angular momentum.

Discussion Status

The discussion is actively exploring the conservation of angular momentum as a key principle relevant to the problem. Some participants have provided hints and clarifications, while others are reflecting on the implications of energy conservation in this context.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a textbook example that may influence understanding, but the clarity of the problem statement is noted as a potential issue. Participants are navigating assumptions about conservation laws as they relate to the mechanics of the system.

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Homework Statement


The system of small objects shown in the figure below is rotating at an angular speed of 2.0 rev/s. The objects are connected by light, flexible spokes that can be lengthened or shortened. What is the new angular speed if the spokes are shortened to 0.10 m? (An effect similar to that illustrated in this problem occurred in the early stages of the formation of our Galaxy. As the massive cloud of dust and gas that was the source of the stars and planets contracted, an initially small angular speed increased with time.)

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The Attempt at a Solution


I would think that you would just multiply 2.0 rev/s by the new length, 0.10m, which will give 0.20 rev/s. When I enter this, it tells me that my answer is off by a multiple of ten.
 

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Hint: What's conserved as the spokes are shortened? How does shortening the spokes affect the rotational inertia?
 
energy is conserved. sometimes it helps me when i know the answer to get to it, so i looked in the back of my textbook for a similar question. In this question, the spokes were shortened to 0.5m and the final answer was 8 rev/s. could you help me this way?
 
mandy9008 said:
energy is conserved.
Actually, energy is not conserved. (It takes energy to pull in those spokes.) But something else is.
 
angular momentum is conserved?
 
mandy9008 said:
angular momentum is conserved?
Yes. That's what they are looking for. (The problem is not very clearly stated.)
 

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