Calculating Axial Thrust for a Wheelchair Axle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on calculating the axial thrust for a wheelchair axle, focusing on the factors influencing direct stress in the axle during various operational conditions. Participants explore theoretical and practical considerations in the design and function of the axle, particularly under different loading scenarios.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that axial loads on the axle may be negligible during ordinary operation, with significant loads occurring only in specific scenarios, such as side-swiping a curb.
  • Another participant suggests that when designing for worst-case scenarios, axial loads should be considered, particularly when turning corners, as user weight and wheelchair frame weight may transfer down the axle.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that traveling up a ramp and then turning could introduce both axial and bending forces, especially when the load is supported on one wheel.
  • One participant proposes that the greatest axial tension might occur when a downhill wheel slips while the other remains in contact with the ground.
  • Another participant raises the possibility of extreme scenarios, such as a wheelchair falling from a platform, suggesting that the definition of "worst case" is subjective and depends on the designer's choices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions under which axial loads occur and the relevance of these loads in design considerations. There is no consensus on the specific factors that should be prioritized in calculating axial thrust.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the calculations depend on various assumptions about operational conditions and loading scenarios, which remain unresolved.

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I'm in the process of calculating my combined stress on an axle I am designing, I have calculated the bending and torsional stress, however I need to calculate the direct stress in the axle. In order to do this I need to know the axial thrust in my axle, I understand what axial force is but I am unsure what kind of factors need to be taken into consideration when determining what it will be?

I understand that this isn't something which is answered by an equation and is something determined by my environment, design and function.

The axle is designed for one wheel of a wheelchair, supported by 2 bearings and is manually driven at a max speed of 10mph. Not sure if this extra info helps or not.

I think it may have something to do with when going around corners in the wheelchair will cause the most axial thrust but not sure on this either.

Any help would be great and let me know if you need anymore information.
 
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It sounds like that, in ordinary operation, there will be no axial load on the axle. Axial loads will happen at times, if for example, the wheel chair wheel side-swipes a curb, but this is only occasionally. The fatigue calculations need to be done for the common operating conditions, which seems to be with no direct axial stress, only bending and torsion. (Actually, is there any torsion? Is there torque in the shaft? I don't know because it depends upon how you intend to attach the wheels.)
 
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It sounds like that, in ordinary operation, there will be no axial load on the axle. Axial loads will happen at times, if for example, the wheel chair wheel side-swipes a curb, but this is only occasionally. The fatigue calculations need to be done for the common operating conditions, which seems to be with no direct axial stress, only bending and torsion. (Actually, is there any torsion? Is there torque in the shaft? I don't know because it depends upon how you intend to attach the wheels.)

If I am designing my axle for a worse case scenario, I need to take this possible axial load into account? My initial thought that was when the user is going around a corner, a lot of the users weights and the weight of the wheelchair frame will be transfers down the axle and this would be my worst case axial load?
 
What if the wheelchair travels part-way up a ramp, then turns sideways to take a rest? That will result in both axial and bending forces. The greatest forces will be carried on the lower wheel.

There will be situations where the entire load will be supported on one wheel, at the same time as an impulse. For example when traveling parallel with a curb and dropping a wheel over the edge.

The greatest axial tension will probably be when the downhill wheel slips on ice and the upper wheel remains in contact with the pavement.

When brakes are applied to the rim, there will be a bending force to the axle.
 
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The worst case scenario could be when the wheelchair falls from a platform and lands on the hub. You probably want to choose a less drastic case.

My point is that the worst case is not a question of physics, but rather a matter of choice.
 
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