Calculating Boiling Point of HF: ΔH and ΔS Equation Analysis

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The discussion centers on calculating the boiling point of HF using the reaction HF(L) to HF(G) with given values for ΔH and ΔS. The participant initially applies the equation ΔH = -ΔS*T to find a negative temperature, leading to confusion about the correctness of the equation used. Clarification is provided that at phase equilibrium, ΔG equals zero, which leads to the correct relationship ΔG = H - ΔS*T. The conversation emphasizes that the equation ΔH = -ΔS*T is not applicable in this context and that the derivation of ΔG = 0 is a fundamental principle in thermodynamics. Understanding these concepts is crucial for accurate calculations in thermodynamic systems.
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find the boiling point of HF according to the following reaction

HF(L) --> HF(G)
ΔH=7.53 [KJ/mol]
ΔSsys=0.0257[KJ/(mol*K)]

i used the equation

ΔH=-ΔS*T
>>T=-ΔH/ΔS
>>T=-0.0257/7.53

T=-292.996°K

surely this is meant to be positive ?
have i used the wrong equation?? which other equation should i have used?
 
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Where does ΔH=-ΔS*T come from? Surely ΔG=0 at a phase equilibrium at constant temperature and pressure.
 
i don't know, i have it written in my workbook, could it be a mistake??

if ΔG=0
ΔG=H-ΔS*T
H=ΔS*T

and then it all works fine,,, but how do i know that ΔG=0,?

is there no equation that ΔH=-ΔS*T?/
 
Dell said:
how do i know that ΔG=0,?

This is a condition that applies to any two systems at equilibrium at constant pressure and temperature. It's derived in intermediate thermodynamics as a consequence of the first and second laws.

Dell said:
is there no equation that ΔH=-ΔS*T?/

There could be, but I haven't seen it, and it doesn't apply here.
 
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