Calculating CFM from 800 PSI Air Supply

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This discussion focuses on calculating the Cubic Feet per Minute (CFM) from an 800 PSI air supply through a 1-foot diameter pipe. The key formula derived is CFM = π*(diameter/2)²*(speed of sound)*(60 sec/min), where the speed of sound is calculated as 1115 feet/sec. It is established that 800 PSI exceeds the choked pressure for air, limiting the flow velocity to the speed of sound. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the outlet pressure and the system's configuration for accurate calculations.

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If I have an unlimited air supply with 800 PSI and fed through a 1' pipe how do I calculate the CFM
 
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I believe thie thread provides the answer you are looking for:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=129961

In particular post #3:
Assuming no change in height, the pressure would be equal to 1/2 the density * (velocity of air) squared, or velocity = sqrt (2*Pressure/density) and flow rate equals velocity times cross sectional area, so cfm = area of pipe * sqrt (2*Pressure/density)
 
800 psi is way above the choke pressure for air, so no form of Bernoulli's equation will apply (that version is only good up to a few hundred fpm) and the max velocity is the speed of sound.

However, these questions almost always gloss over the issue of the outlet pressure: is this really 800psi air being released to atmosphere (an extremely unusual scenario) or is it being transported through a pipe to a regulator to use at 100psi? It is much more likely the actual pressure drop is only a few psi to deliver the high pressure air to a load...

...so we need more information about what this system is doing. Where is the air going?
 
If you are talking about air flowing only through a straight smooth (no friction) pipe then it would go a little something like this.

We can assume that 800psi is well above choked pressure as russ_waters has said. This means your air can only go as fast as the speed of sound.

speed of sound = sqrt(kRT) in this case I will use 1115 feet/sec.

We already know the diameter of the pipe so it becomes an easy problem.

CFM = pi()*(diameter/2)^2*(speed of sound)*(60sec/min)

CFM = 52500
 

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