Calculating Core Loss on a Toroid Core

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating core losses in a toroidal core, particularly in the context of designing a transformer. Participants seek to clarify the necessary parameters and considerations for accurate calculations, including material properties and operational conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests consulting the manufacturer’s data sheet and application notes for core loss calculations.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for detailed information about the project, including frequency range, voltages, currents, powers, and construction details, to provide meaningful assistance.
  • A participant expresses a need to design a step-up transformer for 4000V from a 240V single-phase variac, indicating they are a beginner in transformer design.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of working with high voltages, especially for someone with limited experience.
  • Repeated requests for clarification on operational parameters and construction details are made to facilitate further discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of providing detailed project information to assist in calculating core losses. However, there is no consensus on the specific methods or approaches to be used, and concerns about safety highlight differing levels of experience among participants.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks specific assumptions about the core material and operational conditions, which are critical for accurate core loss calculations. There are also unresolved questions regarding the design parameters and safety considerations for high voltage applications.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in transformer design, particularly those looking to understand core losses and the factors influencing them, as well as beginners seeking guidance on safety and technical specifications.

Sudalai
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Hello!
I want your help for core losses on how to calculate core loss on a toroid core?
 
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Loss is a property of the core material. Look at the manufacturer’s data sheet, and also look at the application note on how to compute losses.
 
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Sudalai said:
Hello!
I want your help for core losses on how to calculate core loss on a toroid core?
It sounds like this is related to your other two recent threads about transformers:
Sudalai said:
I have 150 x 100 x 60 M4 grade toroid core and same grade slit coil, I need to 180 x 100 x 60 in my design purpose.i would like to add OD 20 mm. my suspicion is a slit that can be added should be on the same grade?
You have not responded to my questions in your thread with the above post. You really need to give us much more information about this project if we are to help you.

What frequency range will your transformer operate within? What voltages, currents, powers, temperature range, etc.? Can you clarify the size and materials and construction details? What do the source and load look like for this transformer? How reactive are they?

There are several contributions to core losses (and winding losses), depending on the answers to the above questions. If you want our help with this, please provide lots more information. Thank you.
 
Sorry for the inconvenience, I need 4000 voltage for in our testing purpose but I have single phase variac 240 v so I would like to design step up 230: 4000v I am is a beginner for designing so I am struggling that
 
Sudalai said:
Sorry for the inconvenience, I need 4000 voltage for in our testing purpose but I have single phase variac 240 v so I would like to design step up 230: 4000v I am is a beginner for designing so I am struggling that
That sounds a bit like a dangerous project for somebody who is a "beginner". What experience do you have working with AC Mains voltages like 230Vrms? What about high voltages like 4000V? Are you working with anybody who does have experience with those voltages and how to keep the project safe?
berkeman said:
What frequency range will your transformer operate within? What voltages, currents, powers, temperature range, etc.? Can you clarify the size and materials and construction details? What do the source and load look like for this transformer? How reactive are they?
We still need answers to these questions in order to try to help you. Thank you.
 
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