Calculating E-field and potential of a charged ring

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Calculating the electric field (E-field) of a charged ring becomes complex when moving off the center due to symmetry challenges. The discussion highlights the importance of using cylindrical polar coordinates and suggests that the resulting field resembles that of two like charges rotated about the z-axis. A common approach is to solve Poisson's equation or utilize the differential form for more accurate results. The original poster realized an error in treating charge density (λ) and differential length (dl') as vectors, which led to incorrect calculations. They have since corrected their approach, applying a general integral form for the E-field and are using numerical methods for simulations.
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Hello folks!

I've been trying to calculate the E-field of a charged ring. It seems well documented for a symetric point(a line from the center etc.) but what I'm interested in is say if I'm slightly of the center of the ring, how can I make a more general equation?

I've tried calculating the potential and the field from there but I get a dominating 0 somewhere so that must be wrong ( V = ∫(λ(x')*dl'(1/(|x-x'|))) and E = -∇V , substituting dl' and λ(x') I get the product of those vectors to (-ρcos(θ')*ρsin(θ') + ρcos(θ')*ρsin(θ'))λdθ' = 0 ??).

Anybody knows where I'm wrong and what to do?
 
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Welcome to PF;
The reason everyone does the field along the axis is because the symmetry is easy.
Off that axis, things get trickier.

Specify cylindrical polar coords, and specify a vector ##\vec{r}## to an arbitrary point.
The resulting field should look a lot like that in a plane from two like charges - then rotated about the z axis.

It may be easier to solve Poisson's equation or follow the differential form.

Anyway - you could also search for "off axis electric field of a ring of charge"
http://www.mare.ee/indrek/ephi/efield_ring_of_charge.pdf
http://electron.physics.buffalo.edu/sen/documents/field_by_charged_ring.pdf
 
Thank you for the welcome. And thanks, I will check it out, although I found something out that I did miss. Apparently I've treated λ and dl' as vectors when they probably should not have been. Now I went straight to the general integralform of the E-field equation and solved it as λ being a constant over the integration and dl' = ρ*dθ'. For x,y = 0 I get the same equation as for the symetric equations as expected. I'm going to use it in electron path simulation so I solved the integral numericaly, probably going to do it proper later though.
 
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