Calculating Electric Field in a Square of Charges

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The problem involves calculating the electric field at the center of a square formed by four charges (q, 2q, 3q, and 4q) placed at the corners. The discussion centers around understanding the contributions of each charge to the electric field and how they interact with one another.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to calculate the electric field contributions from each charge and how to determine their directions. There is mention of considering pairs of charges on opposite sides of the square and the potential cancellation of electric fields.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationships between the electric fields generated by the charges and questioning the reasoning behind the cancellation of certain fields. Some guidance has been provided regarding the vector nature of electric fields and the calculation of net electric fields, but confusion remains about specific steps and concepts.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the lack of information regarding the signs of the charges and how that affects the direction of the electric fields. The discussion also highlights the geometric arrangement of the charges and the implications for calculating the resultant electric field.

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Homework Statement


A square with sides d has charges q, 2q, 3q and 4q arranged
clockwise around the corners of the square. What are the
magnitude and direction of the field at the centre of the square?

Hints: consider pairs on opposite sides of the square. Choose a
coordinate system that makes finding components easy

Homework Equations



E=F/q=kq/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I have drawn a diagram, and I believe that I need to just calculate E for each charge, however I don't know how to approach it. Since now sign (-ve/+ve) is given for any particles how do I determine the direction of the electric field. Thanks in advance
 
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remember that electric field is vector?

the E(field) due to q is canceled by E due to one of q from 3q and also of 2q due to 2q from 4q.

So you have 2 equal E's perpendicular to each other.
now, E = KQ/r2

therefore Enet = sqrt(2) x E

find r from d

also if q is at top left corner, E is downwards!

happy to help :)
 


I'm sorry, but I'm still confused. Why do Eq and E2q cancel? Also how do you get from E = KQ/r2 to Enet = sqrt(2) x E?
 


As the q charge and and 3q are opposite ... their E are opposite so net E because of these two charges is:

E' = (3Kq/r2) - (Kq/r2) = 2Kq/r2

same can be done for charges 2q and 4q.

E'' = (4Kq/r2) - (2Kq/r2) = 2Kq/r2

Now E' and E'' are perpendicular (remember that diagonals of square are perpendicular to each other)

So you can find Enet !

and yes sorry, as charges are positive ... Enet will be upward!
 

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