Calculating Final Velocity of an Object Falling off a Cliff

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The discussion revolves around the physics of an object falling off a cliff, specifically addressing the assumptions regarding final velocity (Vf) in both horizontal and vertical directions when initial velocity (Vox) is provided. Participants explore the implications of these assumptions in the context of a car driving off a cliff and the calculations involved in determining its initial velocity based on the distance of impact.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the necessity of assuming that final velocity is zero at impact, with some suggesting that the final velocity must be greater than the initial velocity due to acceleration. Others discuss the method of calculating time of fall and its relation to horizontal distance without directly involving final velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing differing viewpoints on the assumptions regarding final velocity. Some have offered reasoning against the assumption of Vf being zero, while others are exploring the implications of this assumption in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the interpretation of final velocity in relation to the impact scenario, with some participants expressing confusion over the terminology used in the original question. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the definitions and assumptions being made in the problem setup.

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If you have an object, say, falling off a cliff
and you have initial velocity (Vox) can you assume that its Vf would be zero in both x and y if it doesn't state or ask for a final velocity before impact?
eg) a car drives off a cliff and the site of impact is 32 m from the cliff, find Vo...can I assume Vf is 0?

thanks

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I do not understand why this assumption would be necessary.

In the example of a car driving off a cliff, the solution can be found by finding the time it takes an object to fall the vertical distance of the cliff and then dividing the horizontal distance by that time. The final velocity does not come into play at all.

Chiralic said:

Homework Statement



If you have an object, say, falling off a cliff
and you have initial velocity (Vox) can you assume that its Vf would be zero in both x and y if it doesn't state or ask for a final velocity before impact?
eg) a car drives off a cliff and the site of impact is 32 m from the cliff, find Vo...can I assume Vf is 0?

thanks

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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Chiralic said:
If you have an object, say, falling off a cliff
and you have initial velocity (Vox) can you assume that its Vf would be zero in both x and y if it doesn't state or ask for a final velocity before impact?
eg) a car drives off a cliff and the site of impact is 32 m from the cliff, find Vo...can I assume Vf is 0?
Why in the world would you assume that? Falling bodies accelerate. The final speed of a body falling off a cliff will always be greater than its initial speed--not zero!

What you can assume is that the horizontal speed of the falling body remains constant.
 
if the final velocity is zero (which is just before the impact),
then there would be no impact!

do you mean something else by "vf" ??
 

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