Calculating Generator Shaft Torque

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The discussion revolves around calculating the shaft torque for a generator producing 5KW at 840V and 189 RPM, with a manufacturer-supplied torque curve indicating 350Nm at full power extraction. The calculation shows that 5KW at 189 RPM equates to approximately 252.6Nm, while 350Nm corresponds to about 6.93KW, raising concerns about the accuracy of the torque curve. The user seeks clarification on the relationship between motor torque and generator torque, questioning why they appear to be the same and whether it should require less torque to generate power than to consume it. Additionally, the feasibility of driving the generator with a 2.2KW motor at 3600 RPM using an 18:1 gear reduction is explored, with inquiries about the resulting output torque and generated power. The conversation highlights the need for accurate torque calculations in generator applications.
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Gentlemen,

Here is my scenario. I am building a new project utilizing a PMG that produces 5KW at 840V at 189 RPM. The manufacturer is supplying me with a torque curve that does not appear to be correct. They say, at full power extraction it has 350Nm of shaft torque. Is this correct? If so, why? That equates to roughly 20HP or 18KW.

This is either a wasteful course to generate electricity, or the math is being lost in translation.

I am in the PLC/Autmation Integrator arena and haven't the correct forumla to calculate. Nor do I now what information is required to build the equation. Motor torque, easy. Generator torque, not so much.

I appreciate all the assistance in advance.

Don
 
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5kW@189RPM = 252.6N.m

350N.m@189RPM = 6.93kW

Using Power [W] and Rot [RPM] to get Torque [N.m], the equation will be:

Torque = Power x 60 / (2 x PI x Rot)
 
john.phillip said:
5kW@189RPM = 252.6N.m

350N.m@189RPM = 6.93kW

Using Power [W] and Rot [RPM] to get Torque [N.m], the equation will be:

Torque = Power x 60 / (2 x PI x Rot)

Is it true then that there is a direct corelation between motor torque and generator torque? Why is this the same? Shouldn't it take less torque to make rather than use?

Let's say I drive the 5K @189RPM generator with a 2.2K@3600 motor geared appr. 18:1. Is it possible to do this?
 
Apply the equation to 2.2kW@3600 to get the input torque.

Using the 18:1 reduction, the output torque will be greatly increased. Will this increased output torque supply the required torque of 252.6N.m for the generator ?

If not, what would be the generated power, disregarding transmission efficiency losses ?
 
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