Calculating Heat Transfer by Radiation: Copper Block at 250 C and 1200 sq cm

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The discussion revolves around calculating the heat transfer by radiation from a copper block at 250°C with an area of 1200 sq cm. The relevant formula for heat radiation is provided, which includes emissivity and the Stefan-Boltzmann constant. There is confusion regarding the temperature conversion to absolute values and the correct units for heat flux, which should ultimately be in joules per second (W). After some calculations, a heat flux of 2548.23 W/m² is mentioned, but it is clarified that this value does not account for surrounding objects emitting radiation. The participants emphasize the need to calculate the heat flux per square centimeter rather than per square meter.
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Homework Statement



How much heat is radiated in water per sq cm, from a block of copper at 250 C and 1200 .

Homework Equations


e= 0.6

Hr= (Area)(e)(5.67x10^-8 W/m^2K^4)(temperature)^4

The Attempt at a Solution


i'm sorry, i don't know how to solve this one...
 
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annedi said:
Hr= (Area)(e)(5.67x10^-8 W/m^2K^4)(temperature)^4

Do you know what this formula says (what the result of it is) and what the dimension of the result could be?
 
The answer must be in joules per second
 
annedi said:
The answer must be in joules per second

Correct, J/s (=W). So it is a heat flux. If you plug in the temperature(s) and the the emissivity from the statement (there is no area), what heat flux have you calculated?
 
is this correct. i computed the Hr as a function of area

132.89 W Area /m^2
70543 W Area/m^2
 
annedi said:
is this correct. i computed the Hr as a function of area

132.89 W Area /m^2
70543 W Area/m^2

According to the statement you posted the temperatures of the copper are given in °C. The formula only works with the absolute temperature, so the values are not correct.

What do you mean with "W Area/m^2"? If you don't know a value for the area and you calculate the formula without it, what would the dimension of the result be?
 
I'm sorry, I forgot to convert the temperature

what i meant by W (area)/ m^2

whatever the area is, you'll plug it in the equation.. so W (x)m^2/m^2 will cancel out thus leaving W as the unit
 
annedi said:
I'm sorry, I forgot to convert the temperature

what i meant by W (area)/ m^2

whatever the area is, you'll plug it in the equation.. so W (x)m^2/m^2 will cancel out thus leaving W as the unit

Okay, then if you plug in all the values you have, what heat flux would you have calculated? (I mean from where to where or from which object to which object)
 
the heat flux from copper to water is 2548.23 W/m^2 at 250C.. is this what you mean..
 
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annedi said:
the heat flux from copper to water is 2548.23 W/m^2 at 250C.. is this what you mean..

That is basically what I meant, but it is not the heat flux to the water. It would be the heat flux, if all the objects around the copper wouldn't emit radiation at all (at which temperature would that be?). All the objects around, also emit radiation and you need to calculate the difference of the exchanged heat fluxes. Is there any other information about the water?
 
  • #11
there is no more information stated here.. thanks for the help stockzahn. I really appreciated it. this was due today
 
  • #12
annedi said:
there is no more information stated here.. thanks for the help stockzahn. I really appreciated it. this was due today

If that should be the solution, then sorry. I obviously misunderstood the statement. Just one more thing: I think you have to calculate the heat flux for one cm^2 not m^2. That has to be still transformed.
 
  • #13
oh yeah. i just realized that just now.. THANKS AGAIN :)
 
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