Calculating Kinetic Energy of Hurricane Winds: A Simple Model Approach

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total kinetic energy of hurricane winds using a simple model. The problem involves understanding the relationship between wind speed, radial distance, and the physical parameters of the hurricane, such as air density and height of the wind layer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the wind speed as a function of radial distance and the integration process to find total kinetic energy. There are questions about unit conversions and the limits of integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on correcting unit conversions and setting appropriate limits for integration. There is an acknowledgment of previous misunderstandings regarding the integration setup, and one participant reports achieving a correct answer after adjusting their approach.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the correct limits of integration and the need for proper unit conversions, which are critical for accurate calculations. Participants are navigating through these constraints while attempting to clarify their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


In a simple model of the wind speed associated with hurricane Emily, we assume there is calm eye 18.8 km in radius. The winds, which extend to a height of 4000 m, begin with a speed of 303.0 km/hr at the eye wall and decrease linearly with radial distance down to 0 km/hr at a distance of 128.8 km from the center. Assume the average density of the air from sea level to an altitude of 4000 m is 0.969 kg/m3. Calculate the total kinetic energy of the winds.

Homework Equations


K = 1/2 mv2
dK = 1/2 dmv2
dA = 2πr dr

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried finding the integral of dK in order to find the total KE.
This gives:
∫dK = ∫1/2 v2ρ*h*2π*r dr

Since v is a function of r, I converted the radii and velocities to meters and found a linear fit that represented v(r), which was:
v = -2.76r + 355137
And since ρ, h, and 2π are constants, they can be taken out of the integral, which gives:
KE = ρhπ ∫[v(r)]2 r dr
Since v(r) is already restricted from the outside of the eye to the outside of the entire hurricane, as far as I know it doesn't need to be further restricted in the integral.

I keep getting wrong answers from this, though, so I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong.
 
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baubletop said:
Since v is a function of r, I converted the radii and velocities to meters and found a linear fit that represented v(r), which was:
v = -2.76r + 355137

This doesn't seem to be correct. For example, at r = 18,800 m it doesn't give the correct speed in m/s. Did you convert hours to seconds?
 
Ah no, thanks for pointing out my mistake. This gives a new v(r):
-0.000765r + 98.5554
But this is still wrong when I plug it into the integral (I get 1.636e+17 J).
 
What did you use for the limits of integration?
 
None--I was told that since v(r) already takes into account the restriction from 18.8 km to 128.8 km, the limit on the integration didn't need to be set. But I'm not sure how correct this is.
Also, I've been using 128.8 km for the r when plugging in; should I be using 128.8 km - 18.8 km = 110.0 km instead?

Edit: Just tried that, still wrong.
 
I just tried setting the limits on the integration, which gave me the correct answer, 1.465E+17J. I was just given some bad information for the integral I guess (it's been a while since I've done integrals myself so I just trusted what I heard). Thanks for the help!
 

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