Calculating Kinetic Energy with Rotational Motion

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a student on a rotating stool who catches a mass, prompting questions about changes in kinetic energy and moment of inertia. The initial kinetic energy was calculated as 11.25 J, but the student struggles with understanding how to apply the relevant equations for the final kinetic energy after the catch. It is noted that the moment of inertia increases when the mass is caught, affecting the system's rotational dynamics. The conversation emphasizes the relationship between moment of inertia, angular velocity, and kinetic energy, while seeking clarity on how to compute these values in the given scenario. Ultimately, the challenge lies in transitioning from linear to rotational motion after the mass is caught.
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Homework Statement


A student sits at rest on a piano stool that can rotate without friction. The moment of inertia of the student-stool system is 3.6 kg·m2. A second student tosses a 1.7 kg mass with a speed of 3.0 m/s to the student on the stool, who catches it at a distance of 0.38 m from the axis of rotation. The final angular speed is 0.504 rad/s.
(a) Does the kinetic energy of the mass-student-stool system increase, decrease, or stay the same as the mass is caught?

(b) Calculate the initial and final kinetic energy of the system.


Homework Equations


W=Kf-Ki
ω=v/r

The Attempt at a Solution



All I've gotten so far is Ki=3.6+.5*1.7*3^2=11.25 J. I'm really stuck, please help!
 
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Welcome to PF embudini!

How does the moment of inertia of the system change after the person on the stool catches the mass?

How does the rotational kinetic energy of a system depend on its moment of inertia and on its angular velocity ω?
 
The moment of inertia would increase because the system has a greater mass.

The kinetic energy is .5mv^2+.5Iω^2, the combination of its linear and rotational kinetic energies. But I don't know what to do this these equations in this scenario. I have a lot of problems similar in concept to this one, but I just don't understand how to solve for them!
 
embudini said:
The moment of inertia would increase because the system has a greater mass.

Yes, but how, specifically does it change? Hint: ignoring the mass of the person's arm, you can think of the mass that gets caught as being a point mass that is moving in a circle around the centre of rotation whose radius is the arm length. What is the moment of inertia of such a system? How does it combine with the moment of inertia of the person + stool?

embudini said:
The kinetic energy is .5mv^2+.5Iω^2, the combination of its linear and rotational kinetic energies. But I don't know what to do this these equations in this scenario. I have a lot of problems similar in concept to this one, but I just don't understand how to solve for them!

Yes, but after the catch happens, is there linear motion any longer?
 
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