Calculating Mass in an Elastic Collision

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In the discussion about calculating mass in an elastic collision, the problem involves a 2.8 kg object moving at 7.7 m/s colliding with a stationary object and recoiling at -2.2 m/s. Participants emphasize the use of conservation of momentum and energy to solve for the unknown mass of the second object. It is clarified that two equations are necessary to find both the mass and velocity of the second object post-collision. The importance of confirming whether the collision is elastic is highlighted, as this affects the equations used. Ultimately, without the elastic collision designation, the problem lacks a solvable solution.
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Homework Statement



Object 1 has a mass of 2.8 kg and is moving eastward with a velocity of 7.7 m/s. It collides with a stationary object. After the collision object 1 recoils with a velocity of -2.2 m/s What is the mass of object 2?


Homework Equations



As far as I know:

Conservation of Momentum

Po=P

m1v1=m2v2

m=mass


The Attempt at a Solution



I keep trying to solve by using m1v1=m2v2

m2 = m1v1/v2
 
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You have two unknowns: the mass and velocity of object 2 after the collision.
You will need two equations to solve this. If you know it is an elastic collision, you can use conservation of energy as your second equation. If it is not elastic, then you cannot find the solution. The result of the collision depends on how much energy is lost in the collision.
 
but don't you need the mass of the second object to calculate using the elastic collision formula?
 
No. With two equations, momentum and energy, you can find two unknowns.
It will not be straightforward - you would have to write the two equations, then solve one of them for either m or v, substitute into the other to eliminate one unknown, then solve for the other one.
 
Any chance you could show me? I'm at a major loss and I have a huge exam coming up:/
 
Glad to help. But you can't just add "elastic collision" to the question.
As it stands, there is no solution.
Take another look at it - if it says "elastic collision" in the question, then write
energy before = energy after
½mv² = ½mv² + ½mv²
and fill in the known quantities. Once you have your two equations with two unknowns, I can offer further advice.
 
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