Calculating Mass in an Elastic Collision

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an elastic collision where object 1, with a known mass and initial velocity, collides with a stationary object. The post seeks to determine the mass of the second object based on the conservation of momentum and energy principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of conservation of momentum and energy equations to find the unknown mass and velocity of the second object. There are questions about the necessity of knowing the mass of the second object to apply the elastic collision formulas.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the problem setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for two equations to solve for the two unknowns, and the importance of confirming whether the collision is elastic.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the classification of the collision as elastic or inelastic, which affects the ability to solve the problem. The original poster expresses concern about their understanding and preparation for an upcoming exam.

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Homework Statement



Object 1 has a mass of 2.8 kg and is moving eastward with a velocity of 7.7 m/s. It collides with a stationary object. After the collision object 1 recoils with a velocity of -2.2 m/s What is the mass of object 2?


Homework Equations



As far as I know:

Conservation of Momentum

Po=P

m1v1=m2v2

m=mass


The Attempt at a Solution



I keep trying to solve by using m1v1=m2v2

m2 = m1v1/v2
 
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You have two unknowns: the mass and velocity of object 2 after the collision.
You will need two equations to solve this. If you know it is an elastic collision, you can use conservation of energy as your second equation. If it is not elastic, then you cannot find the solution. The result of the collision depends on how much energy is lost in the collision.
 
but don't you need the mass of the second object to calculate using the elastic collision formula?
 
No. With two equations, momentum and energy, you can find two unknowns.
It will not be straightforward - you would have to write the two equations, then solve one of them for either m or v, substitute into the other to eliminate one unknown, then solve for the other one.
 
Any chance you could show me? I'm at a major loss and I have a huge exam coming up:/
 
Glad to help. But you can't just add "elastic collision" to the question.
As it stands, there is no solution.
Take another look at it - if it says "elastic collision" in the question, then write
energy before = energy after
½mv² = ½mv² + ½mv²
and fill in the known quantities. Once you have your two equations with two unknowns, I can offer further advice.
 

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