Calculating Power Output with PWM and 1ohm Load

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around calculating power output using Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) with a 1-ohm load and a voltage supply of 4V. Participants explore the implications of duty cycle on average power output and the appropriate methods for averaging voltage and current in this context.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the power draw as 16W for a 1-ohm load at 4V and suggests that with a 50% duty cycle, the average power output should be 8W.
  • Another participant argues that averaging both current and voltage without using RMS averages leads to an incorrect power calculation of 4W, prompting a discussion on the necessity of RMS for accurate power calculations.
  • There is a question about whether RMS calculations are only applicable to sine waves, with participants clarifying that RMS can be used for various waveforms.
  • A clarification is made that the factor of 0.707 applies specifically to sine waves, but RMS calculations are valid for any waveform.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of using RMS values for accurate power calculations, but there is some uncertainty regarding the application of RMS to different waveform types and whether the initial calculations were correct.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the assumptions underlying the calculations and the specific definitions of RMS in different contexts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electrical engineering, particularly those working with PWM and power calculations in circuits.

GlynnHeeswijk
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Hi
I have a question to do with using PWM
If for example I had a 1ohm load and a voltage supply of 4JC-1, I would get a power draw of 16JS-1, now if I had a duty cycle of say 50% I should get an average power output of 8JS-1. However if i thought of it as having an average current of 2CS-1 and a average voltage of 2JC-1 then the power output comes out to be 4JS-1, which is 4 times less and not half. If it should be the half what does the actual voltage and current average out to?

Thank you very much.
 
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(4V)^2/1 Ohm = 16W continuous = 4A * 4V

50% duty cycle

8W = 4A * 4V * 0.5

You can't average both the current and voltage, without taking an RMS average. RMS averages give you the right answer -- can you see why?
 
I can see that it does seem work. However I thought that RMS using route 2 was for sine waves? Am i missing something?

Thank you
 
GlynnHeeswijk said:
I can see that it does seem work. However I thought that RMS using route 2 was for sine waves? Am i missing something?

Thank you

No, it's used quite generally for power calculations. You can calculate the RMS value of an arbitrary function:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_mean_square

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Be sure to keep in mind that .707 * Vpeak is the RMS equivalent for sine waves only. But real actual RMS doesn't care what the waveform is.
 
Thank you both very much for your help. I understand it a lot better now.
 

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