Calculating Projectile Distance: Seeking Assistance

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the distance a projectile will travel when launched at an angle from a height above the ground, specifically in the context of a local competition. Participants explore the necessary steps and considerations for solving this problem while ignoring air resistance.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a simplified approach to calculate projectile distance using equations for vertical and horizontal motion but expresses difficulty with the algebra involved.
  • Another participant questions whether external assistance is allowed in the competition.
  • Concerns are raised about the omission of the initial velocity of the projectile and assumptions regarding the Earth's curvature and gravity's variability at different altitudes.
  • A later reply clarifies that the competition is informal, allowing for simplifications and assumptions to be made, such as ignoring variations in gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that simplifications can be made for the competition context, but there are differing views on the importance of including initial velocity and the assumptions about the Earth's curvature and gravity.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on the initial velocity and the assumptions made regarding the ideal conditions for the projectile's motion. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and participants interested in projectile motion, particularly in competitive or informal settings, may find this discussion relevant.

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As part of a local competition, i have to calculate the distance that a projectile launched at an angle from a certain height above the ground will travel. a friend and i have attempted to shorten the three necessary steps (ignoring air resistance) into a single step.
v=rad(2gh), Dx=Vx*t, Dy=.5*a*t^2
However being at our level of experience the algebra gets a bit hairy and doesn't seem to quite work out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. (also i am not certain that i have been clear in presenting my dilemma, so i will try to clarify if necessary since I am not good at explaining things in words)


Thanks again!
 
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Do the rules of this competition allow you to receive external assistance?
 
You left out the initial velocity of the projectile when it is launched. Also, are you assuming a flat Earth (not having to worry about sub-orbital paths (ellipses as opposed to parabolas), or the strength of gravity being less at higher altitudes)?
 
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Do the rules of this competition allow you to receive external assistance?
Yes. Its not a very serious competition, and this problem has become more of a quest than help with the competition. We can solve it with a different method, but are curious as to how this would work.

You left out the initial velocity of the projectile when it is launched. Also, are you assuming a flat Earth (not having to worry about sub-orbital paths (ellipses as opposed to parabolas), or the strength of gravity being less at higher altitudes)?
Since its not a really serious competition and the fact that it is mainly high school students we do not need to take the variability of the strength of gravity or anything else really into account. We assume as simplistic and ideal a world as is possible.
Thanks for the replies
 

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