Calculating Propeller Thrust for Custom-Made Drone

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating propeller thrust for a custom-made drone intended for operation in a spacecraft environment. Participants explore the implications of thrust generation in a microgravity setting and the necessary equations and considerations for lift-off and maneuverability.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand the general equation for propeller thrust and how to calculate the necessary force for lift-off in a spacecraft, questioning the relevance of gravitational force in this context.
  • Another participant points out the confusion regarding the operational environment, emphasizing that propellers require a fluid medium to generate thrust.
  • A different participant notes that there is no single general equation for propeller thrust due to the variability in propeller shapes and suggests using numerical methods or empirical data for specific designs.
  • One participant references a previous challenge faced by a team during the NASA Space Apps Challenge, highlighting the complexities of calculating lift-off forces and maneuvering in space.
  • Another participant mentions that in the absence of artificial gravity, even a small force would suffice to initiate movement in any direction.
  • It is suggested that any force greater than zero would enable lift-off, with the required force being dependent on the drone's mass and desired acceleration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and requirements for propeller thrust in a spacecraft, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the necessary conditions for effective operation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the assumptions about the operational environment (e.g., presence of a fluid medium) and the specific design parameters of the drone, which remain unspecified.

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I would like to know how does the general equation about propellers thrust look like. How should I calculate the force to be big enough for a lift off? The object (a drone) is located in a spacecraft , which means the gravitational force is 0. Are there more variables that I should concern about? This is about custom made drone, created to lift objects and transport them to some location. Eg. from point A to point B with 1 main, big propeller and two smaller ones on the sides, for turning around, left and right.
PS: I require the logic behind all the equations, how they are derived.
 
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I don't know the answers to your main question. However part of you statement is confusing. The object is located in a spacecraft . (?) For propellers to work you need a fluid medium. What do you have?
 
MarjanESA said:
I would like to know how does the general equation about propellers thrust look like.
There is no general one, as propellers can be arbitrarily shaped. You can use numerical methods like blade element theory or computational fluid dynamics or empirical data for a specific propeller.
 
mathman said:
I don't know the answers to your main question. However part of you statement is confusing. The object is located in a spacecraft . (?) For propellers to work you need a fluid medium. What do you have?
Spacecraft or space station. It isn't really specified. That's the main problem of this challenge. A team had worked on this in the last NASA Space Apps Challenge and they had problem with calculating the force for lift of, moving around the space and carrying some kind of a package. Should it really have a lift off force or there is some other crucial element? This challenge got my attention. It was supposed to be a specified drone used by scientists that work in the ISS.
 
Inside the space station, unless there is artificial gravity, it would take only a tiny push to get something moving in any direction.
 
MarjanESA said:
How should I calculate the force to be big enough for a lift off? The object (a drone) is located in a spacecraft , which means the gravitational force is 0

Any force greater than zero will cause it to "lift off".

The force you use will depend on the mass and acceleration you want.
 

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