Calculating Ratio of Time Above ymax/2 to Time from Floor to ymax

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The problem involves analyzing the vertical jump of an athlete, focusing on the time spent above half of the maximum height (y_max/2) compared to the time taken to reach that height from the floor. The context is rooted in kinematics, specifically the motion of a particle under gravity.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the equations of motion, with some suggesting clarifications on variable definitions and coordinate systems. There is an emphasis on distinguishing between different times involved in the calculations.

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Some participants note the importance of defining the coordinate system and the variables used in the equations, as well as the need to avoid confusion with time variables. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


In the vertical jump, an athlete starts from a crouch and jumps upward to reach as high as possible. Even the best athletes spend little more than 1.00 s in the air (their "hang time"). Treat the athlete as a particle and let y_max be his maximum height above the floor.

To explain why he seems to hang in the air, calculate the ratio of the time he is above y_ max/2 to the tme it takes him to go from the floor to that height. You may ignore air resistance.


Homework Equations



y=yo+vo*t+1/2a*t^(2)

The Attempt at a Solution



From floor to ymax

ymax=-g/2*t^(2)

From ymax/2 to ymax

ymax/2 = vo*t - 1/2*g*t^(2)

Not sure what to do after here.
 
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Toranc3 said:

Homework Statement


In the vertical jump, an athlete starts from a crouch and jumps upward to reach as high as possible. Even the best athletes spend little more than 1.00 s in the air (their "hang time"). Treat the athlete as a particle and let y_max be his maximum height above the floor.

To explain why he seems to hang in the air, calculate the ratio of the time he is above y_ max/2 to the tme it takes him to go from the floor to that height. You may ignore air resistance.


Homework Equations



y=yo+vo*t+1/2a*t^(2)

The Attempt at a Solution



From floor to ymax

ymax=-g/2*t^(2)
You mean ymax= (g/2)t^2. You don't say how you are setting up your coordianate system, but assuming positive is "up", ymax is positive.

From ymax/2 to ymax

ymax/2 = vo*t - 1/2*g*t^(2)
Please don't use "t" for both times! t in your first equation is the time necessary to get to the highest point. Let's use "s" to mean the time to the half that. Now you have, of course, ymax/2= (g/2)t^2= v_os- (1/2)gs^2. That is a quadratic, (g/2)t^2- v_os+ (g/2)s^2. Solve that for quadratic for s in terms of t, and form the ratio.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Not sure what to do after here. </div> </div> </blockquote>
 
As you have two different times, I would use t and t' to separate them. In addition, try to express vo as function of t or ymax.
You can then use your equations to find an equation with t and t' and no other variables.
 
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