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The discussion focuses on calculating speed and angular momentum using two key equations related to rotational dynamics. The user attempts to solve for final velocity (v_f) using initial velocity (v_i), moment of inertia (I), and angular velocity (ω), but encounters inconsistencies in their results. Despite multiple approaches, the user is unable to reconcile the equations and seeks clarification on potential errors or the possibility of no solution. The calculations involve complex algebraic manipulations, leading to a final expression for v_f that remains unresolved. Overall, the thread highlights challenges in applying physics principles to derive accurate results in angular momentum problems.
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Homework Statement



this is not homework, I am discussing angular momentum here: https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...d-angular-momentum.776258/page-2#post-4884631, we have 2 equations$$\frac{i \omega _0^2}{2}+\frac{m v_i^2}{2}=\frac{I \omega _1^2}{2}+\frac{m
v_f^2}{2}$$
## I \omega _0+m r v_0=~I \omega _1+m r v_1 ##
## ~M=10,~m=1,~l=1, ~I=\frac{[l^2] M = 10}{12},~r=\frac{l}{2} = 0.5,~v_i=22,~\omega _0=0, ~\omega_1 = x##

Homework Equations


$$\frac{m v_i^2}{2}=\frac{I \omega ^2}{2}+\frac{m
v_f^2}{2} \rightarrow v_f^2 = (v_i^2= ~22^2) = 484 - \frac{5}{6}\omega^2 $$
## m r v_i= ~I \omega +m r v_f \rightarrow v_f = 22 - \frac{10}{6}\omega##

The Attempt at a Solution


The problem is simple, but I get a funny result. I tried hundreds of times with different approaches to no avail; can you tell me where I go wrong, or if the problem has no solution?
## v_f = 22 - \frac{10}{6}\omega → v_f^2 = 22^2 + \frac{10^2}{6^2} \omega^2 + \frac{2*22*-10}{6}\omega ##
## v_f^2 = 484 + \frac{100}{36} \omega^2 - \frac{440}{6}\omega ##
plugging in the first equation:

## (v_f^2 = ) ~484 - \frac{5}{6}x^2 = 484 + \frac{100}{36} x^2 - \frac{440}{6}x \rightarrow - \frac{30}{36}x^2 = \frac{100}{36}x^2 - \frac{6*440}{36}x = 130x^2 = 2640 x ##
## x= 2640/130 = 20.3 ##
 
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bobie said:
$$ v_f^2 = (v_i^2= ~22^2) = 484 - \frac{5}{6}\omega^2 $$
Check that last term.
 
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