Calculating Tension in a String with Mass & Torsion

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The problem involves a vertical string with a mass M attached, which is twisted by an angle (theta). The focus is on determining the tension in the string while considering the effects of torsion.

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  • The original poster attempts to relate tension and torsion but expresses uncertainty about how to start the solution. Some participants question the relationship between tension and torsion, suggesting that they may not be directly additive due to their different natures.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the forces acting on the mass and the implications of applying torque. There is an emphasis on clarifying the roles of tension and torsion in the context of the problem.

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Participants note that the original poster has not fully completed the homework template, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. There is also mention of the need to consider the vector nature of the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


if a vertical string hangs with mass M attached to its end and is twisted by angle (theta) then
what will be the tension in the string

2. relevant equations
T= mg

torque= torsional constant x angular displacement
3. attempt to solution

i am not able to start with solution but it seems that tension that is Mg and torsion must be added
 
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Sorry, jonny23, but PF isn't the Magic 8-Ball. There are three parts to the HW template and you have completed only the first part. You still must provide a listing of any equations you think are relevant to finding a solution, and then show some work actually leading up to a solution, even an incorrect one.
 
So you've applied the equation, come up with Mg as the answer, and are wondering what torsion has to do with it, right?
Consider the mass and the forces on it. What are they?
 
and tension and torsion would be 90 degrees right so i need to take vector sum
 
jonny23 said:
and tension and torsion would be 90 degrees right so i need to take vector sum
Torsion is a torque, not a linear force, so it doesn't really make sense to add them together.
Of the forces/torques exerted by the string on the mass, I would say that, by definition, the tension is the linear component acting along the string. On that basis, what does ##\Sigma F = ma## applied to the mass in the vertical direction tell you?

(To get a complete picture of the forces on the mass, bear in mind that something is applying a torque to the mass in order to twist the string.)
 

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