Calculating the diameter of a bubble

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To calculate the diameter of a soap bubble at 80℃ with a pressure increase of 40 Pa, the relevant formula is ΔP=4Y/R, where Y is the surface tension coefficient. The surface tension coefficient varies with temperature, and the user is seeking a method to determine Y at 80℃, noting that a professor provided Y at 20℃ as 0.0728 N/m. There is confusion regarding a different formula, ΔP=4T/R, which applies to double surface bubbles and uses surface tension rather than temperature. The discussion includes suggestions to estimate the critical temperature for soap solutions to find the appropriate surface tension value. Overall, the conversation revolves around understanding how to accurately calculate the bubble's diameter given the temperature and pressure conditions.
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Homework Statement


Suppose the temperature is 80℃ and we have a soap bubble that has a pressure increase of 40 [Pa]. What is the diameter of the bubble?

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ΔP=4Y/R

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I'm very confused about how to find the coefficient of surface tension (Y).
In an example my professor gave us in class he gave us Y(20°C)= 0.0728 N/m. So I'm guessing the coefficient changes with temperature? How would I calculate Y(80°C)? Is there a formula I'm missing?

Also I saw a different version of the above formula where they had ΔP=4T/R. Under what condition would you be able to just neglect the coefficient of surface tension and plug the temperature straight in? Or maybe is that formula completely incorrect? Thanks!
 
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Ok! That makes more sense. So how do you find the coefficient of surface tension?
 
jdawg said:
Ok! That makes more sense. So how do you find the coefficient of surface tension?
Did you try the link I posted?
 
Does that formula only work for water though? Is there a formula like that for soap?
 
jdawg said:
Does that formula only work for water though? Is there a formula like that for soap?
What if you assume that the difference between water and a soap solution is due to a difference in the critical temperature?
 
Then you could use that formula?
 
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Then you could use that formula?
Yes. You could use the given datapoint for the soap solution and the formula to estimate the critical temperature for that soap solution. Then you could find the water temperature that should have the same coefficient as the soap solution at 80C.
Mind you, this is just guesswork. I have not been able to find any info online to confirm this approach.
 
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I'll give it a shot, thanks for your help!
 
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