Calculating the Lioness' Meal: v_{L}>v_{G}

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The discussion revolves around calculating the conditions under which a lioness, moving faster than a gazelle, can catch it in a straight-line chase. The equations of motion are derived using polar coordinates, leading to expressions for the velocities of both animals. A special case is suggested where the gazelle runs orthogonally to the line connecting their initial positions, simplifying the calculations. The participants explore different mathematical approaches to eliminate time from their equations and analyze the pursuit dynamics. The conversation highlights the complexity of pursuit problems and encourages further exploration of related mathematical concepts.
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A hungry lioness runs after a gazelle. v_{L}>v_{G} are the constant magnitudes of the velocities of the two animals. The lioness always directs it's velocity towards the gazelle, the latter always runs in a straight line. Calculate when will the lioness eat the gazelle, as a function of the initial positions of the two animals in the savannah (the horizontal xy plane) and of the direction of the gazelle's speed.
 
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Sorry, I can only solve a similar problem where a cat chases a mouse.

You have to help me out here:

SHOW ME YOUR HOMEWORK SO FAR!
 
...it's about 10 years I don't have to do homework, luckily...:smile:

Anyway...
...in the rest frame of the gazelle, or the mouse, or the thief...
...in plane polar coordinates r,\alpha...
...I found...

\dot r=-v_L-v_G\cos\alpha

r\dot\alpha=-v_G\sin\alpha

Theese should be the equations of motion.
The first one can be replaced by

v_G\ddot\alpha\sin\alpha+v_L\dot\alpha^2=0

But I can't go any further!
 
Now, I am unsure as to why polar coordinates would be your salvation here.

I suggest that you first try the following special case:

The direction the gazelle will run in is orthogonal to the line connecting the initial positions of the gazelle and lioness.

Try and set up a set up equations of motion in the ground's rest frame; let for example the gazelle run up along the y-axis.

I'll help you out if you get stuck.
 
In the rest frame it should be (x_G,y_G)=(0,v_Gt) and

\dot x=\frac{-vx}{[x^2+(v_Gt-y)^2]^{1/2}}

\dot y=\frac{v(v_Gt-y)}{[x^2+(v_Gt-y)^2]^{1/2}}

(I suppressed the index L for readability).
I thought this looked awful, that's why I used polar coordinates. But maybe you have got the clue here?

EDIT:

Oh yeah and you can write

\frac{\dot x}{x}=\frac{\dot y}{y-v_Gt}

that looks better, but I still can't solve!
 
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Petr Mugver said:
Oh yeah and you can write

\frac{\dot x}{x}=\frac{\dot y}{y-v_Gt}

that looks better, but I still can't solve!

1. This can be written as:
x\frac{\dot{y}}{\dot{x}}=(y-v_{G}t)(1)

2. Now we have:
\frac{\dot{y}}{\dot{x}}=\frac{dy}{dx}(2)

Now, we need to eliminate "t" from (1)!
Remember that:
\int_{0}^{t}\sqrt{\dot{x}^{2}+\dot{y}^{2}}dt=v_{L}t
The integral, can, however, be rewritten, in terms of an arbitrary x as:
t=\frac{1}{v_{L}}\int_{x_{0}}^{x}\sqrt{1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^{2}}dx
whereby we get:
\frac{dt}{dx}=\frac{\sqrt{1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^{2}}}{v_{L}}

Now, let us differentiate (1) with respect to x:
\frac{dy}{dx}+x\frac{d^{2}y}{dx^{2}}=\frac{dy}{dx}-\frac{v_{G}}{v_{L}}\sqrt{1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^{2}}
which is, at first a separable equation for the variable Y=dy/dx:
x\frac{dY}{dx}=-\frac{v_{G}}{v_{L}}\sqrt{1+Y^{2}}
 
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