Calculating the speed taking into account the weight of a person

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To calculate the speed of an electric skateboard with a person on it, the weight affects acceleration rather than top speed on a frictionless surface. The force of friction increases with the weight of the person, impacting the skateboard's ability to reach its maximum speed of 21 mph. Key formulas include F=MA for determining the necessary force and T=Fr for calculating torque based on wheel size. Additionally, the incline introduces gravitational forces that must be accounted for in calculations. Overall, the weight and size of a person influence friction and wind resistance, which ultimately affects acceleration and speed maintenance.
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I need to buy a DC motor for an electric skateboard project. I need to calculate the speed at which it can travel with a person on top. I can calculate the speed at which the skateboard can go but is does not account for the weight of a person as that will surely decrease the speed. What formula can be used to calculate the speed with for say a 120kg person standing on the skateboard. The skateboard can go at a speed of 21mph how much will it decrease due to a person's weight? Any known formulas?

Also, what formula can I use to calculate the speed on an incline?

Please help me out.
 
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You need enough power and torque to overcome friction. The force from friction is something you probably have to test.
On an incline, you get an additional force component from gravity. Inclined plane problems can be found in literally every textbook on introductory mechanics.
 
mfb said:
You need enough power and torque to overcome friction. The force from friction is something you probably have to test.
On an incline, you get an additional force component from gravity. Inclined plane problems can be found in literally every textbook on introductory mechanics.
Thanks for your reply. Can you provide some formulas to calculate torque?
 
Rafn97 said:
Thanks for your reply. Can you provide some formulas to calculate torque?
I think torque will be a measured quantity (unless you are building your own motor). Read it from the data sheet.
 
You are skipping several steps that need to be worked out to determine the motor characteristics.
First: establish the requirements - accelerate a mass of 120 kg from 0 to 36 km/hr in 30 seconds
Second: determine the force needed - F=MA. M is 120 kg. A is 36 km/hr divided by 30 seconds (convert units)
Third: from force F determine torque based on wheel size. T=Fr where r is wheel radius.
Fourth: change requirements if needed to match motor specifications.

I've left out some calculations - please review basic physics design requirements and there are some stiction (static friction) considerations for where the wheels touch the ground not covered. Also not covered are motor speed vs torque needed.
 
The weight of a person on a frictionless skateboad on a flat surface will not affect the speed. It will affect the rate of acceleration. As described above, F=ma.

The weight of a person will affect the friction (bearings and wheels-to-pavement). The size of a person will affect the wind resistance. Those will affect the top speed that can be maintained with a given motor/power system. I think there are plenty of web pages that will have calculators for those effects.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/rolling-friction-resistance-d_1303.html is a good place to start.

So, a skateboard that can go 21mph with a person of weight X will go slower with an identically sized person of weight Y only because of increased wheel and bearing friction. It will also take a bit longer to get to that top speed.
 
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