Calculating Total Energy of A and B Nuclei in Center of Mass Frame

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The discussion centers on calculating the total energy of two colliding nuclei, A and B, in the center of mass frame. The center of mass frame is defined as the frame where the total spatial momentum is zero. The velocities of the nuclei are derived using relativistic equations, leading to expressions for their energies in this frame. Participants also explore the implications of a collision resulting in new particles, C and D, and the associated energy conservation equations. The minimum energy required for the reaction to occur is questioned, highlighting the importance of understanding the relationship between rest masses and energy in particle collisions.
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Nucleus A,which has rest mass m_A,collides with nucleus B,which has rest mass m_B.In the laboratory frame,nucleus A has energy E>m_Ac^2
abd nucleus B is stationery.Find the total energy of the system in center of mass frame in terms of m_A,m_B and E.



The Attempt at a Solution



What's the center of mass frame?Is it a frame of nucleus A?
 
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Consider the frame in which the total spatial momentum is zero.
 
Is it a center of two nuclei?
 
Then check my solution.
Velocity of A in labframe is
v=c\sqrt{1-(\frac{m_Ac^2}{E-m_Ac^2})^2}
velocity of center of mass
v_c=\frac{m_Av}{m_A+m_B}

In frame which moves with velocity v_c,nucleus A has velocity

v'_A=\frac{v-v_c}{1-\frac{vv_c}{c^2}}.And nucleus B has velocity v'_B=v_c.So the total energy in this frame is

E'=\gamma(v'_A)m_Ac^2+\gamma(v'_B)m_Bc^2
 
I think from the frame moving with velocity v_c,velocities for A and B arer true.But as seems to me m_Av_A\neq m_Bv_B in this frame.
 
Here I tried another solution:

E'=\sqrt{(E+m_Bc^2)^2-E^2+m_A^2c^4}
 
azatkgz said:
Here I tried another solution:

E'=\sqrt{(E+m_Bc^2)^2-E^2+m_A^2c^4}

Looks right to me.
 
Thanks very much.

And ,if after colission reaction occurs A+B\rightarrowC+D+Q.m_A+m_B=m_C+m_D+Q.Is it

E'^2=(m_Cc^2+m_Dc^2+Q)^2 ? For E minimum
 
azatkgz said:
Thanks very much.

And ,if after colission reaction occurs A+B\rightarrowC+D+Q.m_A+m_B=m_C+m_D+Q.Is it

E'^2=(m_Cc^2+m_Dc^2+Q)^2 ? For E minimum

I don't understand. What is the question asking for?
 
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Oh,sorry.After collision reaction occurs A+B\rightarrow C+D.Suppose that

m_A+m_B=m_C+m_D+Q.Find the minumum E for reaction to occur?And I think that in center of mass frame after reaction total momentum is zero.
 
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azatkgz said:
Oh,sorry.After collision reaction occurs A+B\rightarrow C+D.Suppose that

m_A+m_B=m_C+m_D+Q.Find the minumum E for reaction to occur?And I think that in center of mass frame after reaction total momentum is zero.

sorry. still a little confused. what does Q represent here?
 
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