Engineering Calculating voltage and current of RC Circuit

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The discussion focuses on calculating voltage and current in an RC circuit, particularly at the transition point t=0+. It clarifies that at t=0+, a capacitor behaves like an ideal voltage source reflecting its initial voltage. If the capacitor has no initial charge, it can be replaced with a short circuit; otherwise, it should be modeled as a voltage source. The conversation also addresses how to calculate the voltage at infinity, noting that capacitors act as open circuits in DC conditions. Ultimately, the voltage across the capacitor will stabilize when it matches the driving voltage, ceasing current flow.
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I am looking at the circuit at t<0. I need to calculate v(0) but I'm not sure how to apply nodal analysis when you have a capacitor in the circuit. Do capacitors follow ohm's law?
 

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For the instant t = 0+, a capacitor "looks like" an ideal voltage source with the value of the then current voltage on the capacitor.
 
gneill said:
For the instant t = 0+, a capacitor "looks like" an ideal voltage source with the value of the then current voltage on the capacitor.

Oh, I just realized the question is asking for t≥0. Opps.

I've redrew the circuit for t≥0 but I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. How does the capacitor look like a voltage source if it's not in the circuit diagram? How do I get the voltage of the capacitor if it's not in the circuit diagram?

I've attached my new attempt. Disregard the t<0 part.
 

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If the voltage on the capacitor at time t=0+ happens to be zero then it's okay to replace the capacitor with a wire (short circuit) as you've done. After all, an ideal voltage source of 0 V is identical to a wire (short circuit). But if you run across a case where the capacitor happens to have some initial charge on it, then replace it with a voltage source for that initial instant. If you need to find the capacitor voltage for more more than that instant, it's okay to model the capacitor as an ideal voltage source in series with an uncharged capacitor (initial voltage = 0).

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gneill said:
If the voltage on the capacitor at time t=0+ happens to be zero then it's okay to replace the capacitor with a wire (short circuit) as you've done. After all, an ideal voltage source of 0 V is identical to a wire (short circuit). But if you run across a case where the capacitor happens to have some initial charge on it, then replace it with a voltage source for that initial instant. If you need to find the capacitor voltage for more more than that instant, it's okay to model the capacitor as an ideal voltage source in series with an uncharged capacitor (initial voltage = 0).

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So in this case, is the voltage on the capacitor zero at t=0+ or is there some initial charge? It is zero because there is no source when t<0, right?

From your diagram, how would I be able to calculate v(∞)? Capacitors act as open circuits to DC, right? So isn't that an open circuit?
 
Turion said:
So in this case, is the voltage on the capacitor zero at t=0+ or is there some initial charge? It is zero because there is no source when t<0, right?
Right.

From your diagram, how would I be able to calculate v(∞)? Capacitors act as open circuits to DC, right? So isn't that an open circuit?

Yup. The capacitor will charge until the voltage across it exactly balances the driving voltage (no potential difference means no more current flowing into the capacitor). So the thing to do there is to remove the capacitor and find out what the voltage is at the open terminals where it was removed.
 

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