Calculating Volume of Finite Region Using Multiple Integrals

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of the finite region between the surfaces defined by the equations z = x² + 4y² and z = 2x + 8y + 4. The initial approach involved setting up a double integral but encountered complications due to complex bounds. A suggested method involves substituting variables to simplify the problem, specifically using X = x and Y = 2y, leading to a symmetric paraboloid. Further simplification with new variables X' and Y' allows for easier intersection calculations.

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Homework Statement


Hi, I've been trying this for days now and I really can't get it, so would appreciate some help please!



Find the volume of the finite region between the two surfaces z=x^2 + 4y^2 and z=2x + 8y + 4


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The Attempt at a Solution




I tried to do a double integral of (x^2 + 4y^2 - 2x - 8y - 4)dxdy. I thought the bounds of this on the x-y plane would be given by x^2 + 4y^2=2x + 8y + 4. However doing this gives a nasty quadratic for x in terms of y that makes things impossible. I'm also pretty sure I need to sub in something of the form x=a*r*cosP, y=b*r*sinP. The Jacobian for this would be abr.



I got thie bound to be between x=1-[5+8y - 4y^2] and 1 + [5+8y - 4y^2] and y = -0.5 and 5/2



I think this is wrong!



I tried subbing in the sin and cos things also, but don't know how to work out the bounds.



Please help!
 
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Think, what is the shadow of z=x^2 + 4y^2 in the xy-plane?
 
joker_900 said:
Find the volume of the finite region between the two surfaces z=x^2 + 4y^2 and z=2x + 8y + 4!

Hi joker_900! :smile:

(btw, feel free to copy ² and anything else you like for future use. :smile:)

Now, this isn't the best way of doing it … but when ever I get confused, I try to simplify the problem as much as possible … it may take a little longer … but that's better than being completely confused! :redface:

I would make the substitution X = x, Y = 2y.

Then we get a nice symmetric paraboloid, z = X² + Y², intersecting the plane z = 2X + 4Y + 4.

And then I'd simplify again by putting X´ = X + 2Y, Y´= 2X - Y (so they're perpendicular, and we have 5z = X´² + Y´² intersecting z = 2X´ + 4).

Does that help? :smile:
 

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