Calculating Volume of Right Circular Cylinder: Radii 3 to 6 cm

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a right circular cylinder using the formula V = (1/3)pi r²(h). Participants are tasked with finding the average and instantaneous rates of change of volume with respect to the radius as it varies from 3 cm to 6 cm.

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  • Participants explore the average rate of change and the instantaneous rate of change of volume concerning the radius. Some question the correctness of the formula used for volume, while others seek clarification on the nature of the variables involved, particularly whether both radius and height are changing.

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There is an ongoing examination of the formula for volume, with some participants pointing out potential misunderstandings regarding its application. Several calculations have been presented, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the initial answers provided. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to clarify the derivative and the average rate of change calculations.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the height may be constant while the radius changes, leading to discussions about the implications of this assumption on the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Use the formula V = (1/3)pi r2(h) for the volume of a right circular cylinder to find
a. the average rate at which the volume of a right circular cylinder changes with the radius r as r increases from 3 cm to 6 cm.
b. the instantaneous rate at which the volume of the right circular cylinder changes with r when r = 6 cm.

I tried to solve it at home and I arrived at the answers:

a. 3(pi)(h)

b. 4(pi)(h)

Are my answers correct?

thanks
 
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charliemagne said:

Homework Statement


Use the formula V = (1/3)pi r2(h) for the volume of a right circular cylinder to find
a. the average rate at which the volume of a right circular cylinder changes with the radius r as r increases from 3 cm to 6 cm.
b. the instantaneous rate at which the volume of the right circular cylinder changes with r when r = 6 cm.

I tried to solve it at home and I arrived at the answers:

a. 3(pi)(h)

b. 4(pi)(h)

Are my answers correct?

thanks
Without working the problem for myself, I don't know. Show us how you got these answers. In this problem is only the radius changing, or are both radius and height changing?
 
charliemagne said:

Homework Statement


Use the formula V = (1/3)pi r2(h) for the volume of a right circular cylinder to find
a. the average rate at which the volume of a right circular cylinder changes with the radius r as r increases from 3 cm to 6 cm.
b. the instantaneous rate at which the volume of the right circular cylinder changes with r when r = 6 cm.

I tried to solve it at home and I arrived at the answers:

a. 3(pi)(h)

b. 4(pi)(h)

Are my answers correct?

thanks

That isn't the formula for the volume of a cylinder. It is the formula for the volume of a cone.
 
Mark44 said:
Without working the problem for myself, I don't know. Show us how you got these answers. In this problem is only the radius changing, or are both radius and height changing?

Solution:

dy/dx=( 1/3 π(〖6)〗^(2 ) h- 1/3 π(〖3)〗^2 h)/(6-3)

dy/dx=( 1/3 π36h- 1/3 π9h)/2

dy/dx=( 1/3 π36h- 1/3 π9h)/2
dy/dx=(12πh-3πh)/3
dy/dx=9πh/3
=3πh
Solution:
dy/dx=2/3 πrh
At r = 6:
dy/dx=2/3 π6h
=4πh
 
charliemagne said:
Solution:

dy/dx=( 1/3 π(〖6)〗^(2 ) h- 1/3 π(〖3)〗^2 h)/(6-3)

dy/dx=( 1/3 π36h- 1/3 π9h)/2

dy/dx=( 1/3 π36h- 1/3 π9h)/2
dy/dx=(12πh-3πh)/3
dy/dx=9πh/3
=3πh
Solution:
dy/dx=2/3 πrh
At r = 6:
dy/dx=2/3 π6h
=4πh

Your formula for volume is V = (1/3)pi r2(h). There is no y or x in this equation so dy/dx makes no sense. You are talking about V as a funtion of r and apparently h is a constant. To get the average rate of change as r changes from 3 to 6 you want to calculate:

[tex]V_{ave} = \frac {V(6)-V(3)}{(6-3)}[/tex]

That is what you actually started to calculate, but you mis-labeled, it isn't a derivative, and you need to check your arithmetic.

For part (b) you want dV/dr. Calculate it, but don't put the numbers in for r until your have the derivative simplified. I think you should get 24 pi h. No y or x anywhere in your answer.
 
charliemagne said:
Solution:

dy/dx=( 1/3 π(〖6)〗^(2 ) h- 1/3 π(〖3)〗^2 h)/(6-3)
What are those things around the 6 and the 3?
 

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