Calculating Work Done by Ideal Gas at Constant Pressure: PV Diagram Analysis

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work done by an ideal gas at constant pressure as it is heated from 29°C to 110°C. The work done is represented by W = P(Vf - Vi), but participants express confusion due to the lack of initial pressure and volume values. It is suggested that, under constant pressure and no heat loss, the work done by the gas equals the heat added, which can be calculated using W = Q = n*(3/2)*R*ΔT. The key takeaway is that the work done can be derived from the change in temperature and the number of moles of gas, using the ideal gas law. This approach clarifies how to proceed with the calculation despite initial uncertainties.
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Two moles of an ideal gas are heated at constant pressure from a temperature of 29C to 110C.
calculate the work done by the gas


So work is the area under the PV curve, the only problem is I have no volume or intital pressure so PV=nRT doesn't help. Then I was thinking about Q= delta U -W but that doesn't seem to help.


How should I go about this problem because I am stuck?
 
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The work done in general is

W=\int PdV

With constant pressure, this simplifies to

W=P(V_{f}-V{i})

where Vf and Vi are the final and initial volumes respectively. You can find these volumes by using the fact that the pressure P is constant (both volumes will have P in the denominator which will be eliminated from the expression above)
 
Punkyc7 said:
Two moles of an ideal gas are heated at constant pressure from a temperature of 29C to 110C.
calculate the work done by the gas


So work is the area under the PV curve, the only problem is I have no volume or intital pressure so PV=nRT doesn't help. Then I was thinking about Q= delta U -W but that doesn't seem to help.


How should I go about this problem because I am stuck?

Well if the work done by a gas at constant pressure is given by W=P(V2-V1) how would this translate if you replace PV with nRT? (with the appropriate subscript)
 
Punkyc7 said:
Two moles of an ideal gas are heated at constant pressure from a temperature of 29C to 110C.
calculate the work done by the gasSo work is the area under the PV curve, the only problem is I have no volume or intital pressure so PV=nRT doesn't help. Then I was thinking about Q= delta U -W but that doesn't seem to help.How should I go about this problem because I am stuck?

Hi! Here are my two cents!

If there is no heat loss or particle loss in this process, then given the pressure is constant, therefore internal energy of the gas, delta-U, is zero, which, translates to, heat that flowed in, delta-Q, equals to W, the work done by the gas (i.e. expansion).

Therefore, avg KE increase in gas (reflected as temp increase) shall equal to the heat energy that flowed in, in turns, shall equal to the work done by the gas in expansion.

Equationally speaking:
W=Q=Delta-KE=n*(3/2)*R*Delta-T
(where "n" is number of moles of gas, "R" is ideal gas constant, and "Delta-T" is temperature difference in K and it's equal to temp difference in C).Maybe I am wrong (please correct me if so!).. :)
 
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