Calculating Work Required to Move a Charge Between Two Identical Charges

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The problem involves calculating the work required to move a test charge between two identical positive charges, specifically a +35μC charge, and a +0.5μC test charge. The context is rooted in electrostatics and the concept of electric potential.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between work done by an external agent and the work done by the electric field, questioning the signs and interpretations of the work calculations. There is exploration of energy conservation principles in the context of moving charges.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of work and electric potential, with some clarifying the distinction between work done by the external agent and work done by the electric field. There is an ongoing exploration of energy equations related to the problem.

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There is a focus on the definitions and signs associated with work in electrostatics, with participants questioning assumptions about energy considerations and the implications of moving charges in electric fields.

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Homework Statement


A +35[tex]\mu[/tex]C charge is placed 32 cm from an identicle +35[tex]\mu[/tex]C charge. How much work would be required to move a +.5[tex]\mu[/tex]C test charge midway between them to a point 12cm closer to either of the charges?


Homework Equations


Wext = -qV
V = kQ/r


The Attempt at a Solution


Q= +35[tex]\mu[/tex]C, q = +.5[tex]\mu[/tex]C
I found the initial V, Vi = 2KQ/.16 and then the final V, Vf = KQ[1/.28 +1/.04]
Then I did W = -q(Vf-Vi) and got -2.5J
However, the answer is +2.5 J. This makes sense that the answer is positive- you're moving a + charge from an area of lower to higher potential. Why doesn't this agree with my formula though?
 
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cashmoney805 said:
Why doesn't this agree with my formula though?
Because you are finding the work done by you to move the charge, which is qΔV, not the work done by the field, which is -qΔV.
 
Oh, so Wext = qΔV. So for energy considerations, is it W(by E) + PEi + KEi = PEf + KEf + Wext?
 
cashmoney805 said:
Oh, so Wext = qΔV.
In this particular case, in which you are moving the charge with the least amount of energy (no excess kinetic energy).
So for energy considerations, is it W(by E) + PEi + KEi = PEf + KEf + Wext?
In general, I would say: PEi + KEi + Wext = PEf + KEf
 
Ok. If another problem asks about W from E, would Wext just be negative in the equation you provided?
 
If you want the work done by the electric field, use W = -qΔV.
 

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