Calculus Derivatives: Find (a-d) at 3

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The problem involves finding the derivatives of several functions at a specific point, using given values for the functions and their derivatives. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on the application of derivative rules such as the product rule, quotient rule, and sum rule.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the quotient rule for finding the derivative of (f/(f-g)) at a specific point. There are attempts to evaluate the derivatives for (f+g) and (fg) as well, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have successfully calculated the derivatives for parts (a) and (b) but are struggling with parts (c) and (d). There is ongoing clarification regarding the correct application of the quotient rule, with participants questioning their own methods and seeking feedback on potential errors in their calculations.

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Participants note specific values for the functions and their derivatives at x=3, which are critical for evaluating the derivatives. There is mention of potential mistakes in the application of the quotient rule and the need for careful attention to the structure of the derivative expressions.

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Homework Statement



F(3)=−2, g(3)=9, f′(3)=−2, and g′(3)=2, find the following numbers:

(a) (f+g)′(3)

(b) (fg)′(3)

(c) (f/g)′(3)

(d) (f/(f−g))′(3)

The Attempt at a Solution



I already have (a) and (b) [a=0 and b=-22]

for (c) i tried:

(g(x)*f'(x) - f(x)g'(x)) / (g(x))^2

evaluate at 3:
(9)(-2) - (-2)(2) / 4
-18 + 4 / 4
-14/4
-7/2

WHICH IS THE WRONG ANSWER

(d) I just can't get started.
 
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hsd said:

Homework Statement



F(3)=−2, g(3)=9, f′(3)=−2, and g′(3)=2, find the following numbers:

(a) (f+g)′(3)

(b) (fg)′(3)

(c) (f/g)′(3)

(d) (f/(f−g))′(3)


The Attempt at a Solution



I already have (a) and (b) [a=0 and b=-22]

for (c) i tried:

(g(x)*f'(x) - f(x)g'(x)) / (g(x))^2

evaluate at 3:
(9)(-2) - (-2)(2) / 4
-18 + 4 / 4
-14/4
-7/2

WHICH IS THE WRONG ANSWER

(d) I just can't get started.

The denominator for c should be g^2 and you plugged in g'^2 (simple error).
 
And for d), can you still just use the quotient rule? (I'm not sure, but try it...)
 
berkeman said:
And for d), can you still just use the quotient rule? (I'm not sure, but try it...)
Yes, use the quotient rule. After you get the derivative, evaluate the derivative at x = 3.
 
Mark44 said:
Yes, use the quotient rule. After you get the derivative, evaluate the derivative at x = 3.

I think I am applying the rule wrong. This is what I did:

(f-g)'(f)-(f)'(f-g)/(f-g)
[(-2)(-2)]'[-2]-[-2]'[(-2)(-9)]/[(-2)(-9)]
8-22/-11
-14/-11 (wrong answer)

Can you please tell me what it is that I am doing wrong?
 
hsd said:
I think I am applying the rule wrong. This is what I did:

(f-g)'(f)-(f)'(f-g)/(f-g)
You have three mistakes above:
1. The terms in the numerator are switched, which will give you the wrong sign for your answer.
2. The term in the denominator needs to be squared.
3. You are missing a pair of parentheses in the numerator.
hsd said:
[(-2)(-2)]'[-2]-[-2]'[(-2)(-9)]/[(-2)(-9)]
8-22/-11
-14/-11 (wrong answer)

Can you please tell me what it is that I am doing wrong?
It would be helpful if you included the arguments for the general derivative.
Let h(x) = (f/g)(x), then h'(x) = (f/g)'(x) = [g(x)f'(x) - f(x)g'(x)]/g2(x)

And then substitute 3 for x, similar to what I have done below.
So h'(a) = [g(a)f'(a) - f(a)g'(a)]/g2(a)
 

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