Calculus II - Taylor Series Question

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The problem involves finding the power series for the function f(x) = 1/sqrt(x) using the Taylor series expansion about the point a=9. Participants are exploring the derivatives of the function and attempting to identify a pattern in the coefficients of the series.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the derivatives of the function and their evaluations at x=9, noting a potential pattern in the numerators of the derivatives. There are attempts to express this pattern mathematically, including discussions on double factorials and product notation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights on the emerging patterns and questioning how to represent them mathematically. Some participants suggest using induction to verify the identified patterns, while others express uncertainty about the representation of the series and the implications of the double factorial.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the challenge in representing the pattern in the numerator with standard mathematical functions, and some participants note that double factorials are not typically covered in standard calculus II courses, contributing to the confusion.

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Homework Statement



Find the power series for f(x) using the definition of taylor series expansion about a=9. f(x)=1/sqrt(x)

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Find the power series for f(x) using the definition of taylor series expansion about a=9. f(x)=1/sqrt(x)

f(x) = 1/sqrt(x) => f(9) = 1/3
f'(x) = - 1/(2 x^(3/2)) => f'(9) = -1/54
f''(x) = (1*3)/(2^2 x^(5/2)) => f''(9) = 1/324
f'''(x) = -(1*3*5)/(2^3 x^(7/2)) => f'''(9) = 5/5852
...

The patter that seems to be developing is

f^(k)(x) = ( (-1)^k ?)/(2^k x^(1/2 + k) )
but I'm lost as to how to express the pattern that appears in the numerator, hence the question mark, of each order of the function
for f(x) we have 1
for f'(x) we have 1
for f''(x) we have 1*3
for f'''(x) we have 1*3*5
...
The patter that seems to appear after the 1st derivative in a sort of backwards batter, 5*3*1 instead of 1*3*5, is (2k-1)(2k-3)(2k-5)... until the last term is equal to 1

I'm sort of lost... thanks for any help!
 
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Why are you lost? You found the answer?

The thing you might do first is to prove (by induction) that this is indeed the pattern that is emerging in the numerator!
 
i think you've identified the pattern
n=0, 1
n=1, 1
n=2, 1.3
n=3, 1.3.5
..
so for general n,
[tex]1.3...(2n-1) = \Pi_{i=1}^{n}(2i-1)[/tex]

I don't think there is any other simple way to write this, though it can be represented as a double factorial
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factorial#Double_factorial
 
The problem is that I don't know how to come up with the series representation of the function because I don't know how to describe the pattern in the numerator with mathematical functions

inf
sigma ( (-1)^k*1*3*(2k-1)*(x-9)^k)/(k!*2^k x^(1/2 + k) )
k=0

I don't know what to do about the question mark because I don't know how to describe the pattern with mathematical functions... maybe I'm over thinking it
 
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How would I write the series representation without a double factorial?
 
how about as I did?
 
or how about
[tex]1.3...(2n-1) = \Pi_{i=1}^{n}(2i-1) = \frac{(2n-1)!}{2^{n-1}(n-1)!} = (2n-1)![/tex]
 
inf
sigma ( (-1)^k*1*3*(2k-1)*(x-9)^k)/(k!*2^k x^(1/2 + k) )
k=0

for k =0

( (-1)^0*1*3*...*(2*0-1)*(x-9)^0)/(0!*2^0 x^(1/2 + 0) )
(1*3*-1)/sqrt(x)
-3/sqrt(x)
it doesn't seem to work because of the 2*0-1 is negative 1 and doesn't cancel out the 1*3 to leave me with one in the numerator to give me f^(0)(x) = 1/sqrt(x) but instead -3/sqrt(x)?
 
I guess I should learn double factorials than but it's not a standard calculus II topic so that's why I was lead to believe I was doing something wrong but I guess I'm not because I had no clue how to represent the pattern in the numerator
 
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You may have to write the sum from k=1 onwards for that reason though i haven't checked.

If you read post #7 there is a couple of different ways to write it. The double factorial is just a nice shorthand for these, but doesn't get used very often in my experience. If I were marking, any of the forms in post #7 would be fine.

The main thing is you recognised the pattern. As micromass points out if you want to be rigorous you should use induction to prove this is the pattern. However looking at the action of the derivative it should be easy to convince yourself it is correct.
 

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