Can a simply supported beam be a cylinder?

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The discussion revolves around the application of a cylindrical load cell in a structural context, specifically whether it can be treated as a simply supported beam. Participants explore the implications of shock loads, offsets in load cell readings, and potential damage to the device.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario involving a cylindrical load cell supported at both ends and compressed in the middle, questioning if it can be treated as a simply supported beam.
  • Another participant suggests that a beam can indeed be cylindrical in shape, affirming the initial inquiry.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential causes of an offset in the load cell output, including overload, shock, or torque, with a participant indicating that the offset is likely due to some form of damage.
  • There are suggestions to inspect the load cell directly for damage, with a query about how magnification could aid in this inspection.
  • A later reply provides a method for inspection using a low power microscope or handheld magnifying lens.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a cylindrical beam can exist, but there is no consensus on the cause of the load cell's offset or the best approach to diagnose the issue.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions about the load cell's condition or the specific nature of the forces acting on it. There is also uncertainty regarding the relationship between the observed offset and the types of loads experienced.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in load cell applications, structural analysis, or those dealing with measurement equipment in engineering contexts may find this discussion relevant.

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I have an application where I am trying to figure out the shock load being applied to a metal pin (load cell).

It is a cylindrical load cell which is supported at either end, and compressed in the middle. There is a slight gap between the end supports and the section compressed in the middle, this provides shear force across two planes which is measured by strain gauges.

In our situation we know the output from the strain gauges at 500Kg shear force, but the output at 0kg is becoming offset after use, and I need to try and figure out how much force is being applied to create this offset.

I don't really know where to start, but in my reading so far it seems like if I could treat the pin as a simply supported beam I might be able to make a start. So back to my question, can a cylindrical pin be considered as a simply supported beam?

thanks
 
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If your load cell has never been significantly overloaded then I doubt whether you have damaged it .

It is always possible though that your shock load has a short duration spike in it which is causing problems .

Load cell set ups sometimes develop an off set without them being in any way damaged . Normally this offset is just trimmed out .

Answer to your actual question is that a beam can certainly be cylindrical in shape .
 
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Nidum said:
If your load cell has never been significantly overloaded then I doubt whether you have damaged it .

Load cell set ups sometimes develop an off set without them being in any way damaged . Normally this offset is just trimmed out .

Answer to your actual question though is that a beam can certainly be cylindrical in shape .

Hi

thanks for the reply - I know that the offset on the load cell is too large to be attributed to drift or output change once in situ. The load cell output is certainly damge of some description, what I am trying to determine is if it is overload, shock or torque that is causing it.

i'll look more into the maths!

thanks
 
cps.13 said:
can a cylindrical pin be considered as a simply supported beam
Yes

cps.13 said:
what I am trying to determine is if it is overload, shock or torque that is causing it.
Wouldn't it be better to remove it and directly inspect the part after the damage? With a little magnification you can probably see what the cause is.
 
Dale said:
Wouldn't it be better to remove it and directly inspect the part after the damage? With a little magnification you can probably see what the cause is.

How would you see it by magnification?

Thanks
 
With a low power microscope or a hand held magnifying lens.
 

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