Can a Sphere Be Levitated Using Magnets and Rings, Despite Earnshaw's Theorem?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of levitating a sphere using magnets and rings, particularly in the context of Earnshaw's theorem, which suggests limitations on stable levitation using static magnetic fields. Participants explore various configurations and alternative methods for achieving levitation, including eddy current and diamagnetic levitation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a setup involving a magnetized sphere and two magnetic rings that create a repulsive force, questioning how Earnshaw's theorem would render this configuration unstable.
  • Another participant suggests that creating a sphere from cone-shaped magnets may not work as intended due to the cancellation of magnetic fields beyond a hemisphere.
  • A later reply proposes alternative methods such as eddy current levitation or diamagnetic material levitation, questioning the energy requirements for these methods.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the feasibility of levitating a heavy load for an extended period and seeks rough estimates on battery size and energy requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the viability of the original magnetic levitation idea, with some arguing against it while others suggest alternative methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieve stable levitation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific energy requirements and feasibility of the proposed levitation methods, indicating a lack of detailed calculations or established parameters for their ideas.

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Hi,

I've been doing some research on an idea of mine, part of which involves levitating a sphere. Apparently Earnshaw's theorem makes this very difficult; but I'm having a hard time imagining why. I'm imagining the sphere as a magnet, with the north pole over the entire outer surface of the sphere and the south pole over the entire inner surface of the sphere. Two magnetic rings circle around the sphere, each parallel to the equator, but one above and one below the equator. These magnetic rings come close to contact with the sphere, but not quite. The rings are oriented so that their north pole is facing the sphere, causing a repulsive force between the rings and the sphere. The rings are held in place by a bar (or whatever) that is attached to both rings and the ground, keeping the rings firmly in place.

With this setup, would the sphere not stably remain levitated within the rings? I'm trying to understand how Earnshaw's theorem would allow this setup to be unstable. Whichever way the sphere moves, it will move towards a repulsive magnet, which will cause it to move back to an equilibrium right in the middle of the rings. Right?
 
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You could probably make a magnet like that by having hundreds of cone shaped magnets with the pointy ends magnetized as south poles and all pointing inwards. They would tend to repel each other, of course. Maybe you could glue them together.

Until you got it to be a hemisphere, there would be a return path for the magnetic fields of most of these magnets.
However, as you went beyond a hemisphere, the magnetic fields of the magnets could only return to the other end of the magnet by trying to demagnetise another magnet, so the two magnets would tend to cancel each other out.

When you reached the stage of having a sphere, the net magnetic field outside the magnet would be close to zero.

Nice try, but I don't think it is going to work.
 
MaJiK9021 said:
Hi,

I've been doing some research on an idea of mine, part of which involves levitating a sphere. Apparently Earnshaw's theorem makes this very difficult; but I'm having a hard time imagining why. I'm imagining the sphere as a magnet, with the north pole over the entire outer surface of the sphere and the south pole over the entire inner surface of the sphere. Two magnetic rings circle around the sphere, each parallel to the equator, but one above and one below the equator. These magnetic rings come close to contact with the sphere, but not quite. The rings are oriented so that their north pole is facing the sphere, causing a repulsive force between the rings and the sphere. The rings are held in place by a bar (or whatever) that is attached to both rings and the ground, keeping the rings firmly in place.

With this setup, would the sphere not stably remain levitated within the rings? I'm trying to understand how Earnshaw's theorem would allow this setup to be unstable. Whichever way the sphere moves, it will move towards a repulsive magnet, which will cause it to move back to an equilibrium right in the middle of the rings. Right?

As vk6kro points out, your sphere cannot be magnetized the way you want. Why not just use eddy current levitation? Or diamagnetic material levitation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levitation

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Yes, I suppose eddy current or diamagnetic levitation would work. Which of these would require less energy? I would like to be able to levitate the sphere for a couple hours at a time at least with a load of a couple hundred pounds or so, using a battery. How big of a battery would I need to be able to do this?

I know, the equations to figure all this out on my own are out there somewhere, but I really don't know much about this subject and it would be very helpful if someone could just give me a rough idea if what I'm trying to do is feasible at all. Thanks.
 

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