Can a thermoelectric cooler be used as a thermoelectric generator?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a thermoelectric cooler as a thermoelectric generator, exploring the conditions under which this might be possible, and the efficiency implications of such a conversion. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether high temperatures could damage thermoelectric coolers when used as generators, given their expected operating temperatures of 20C and 200C.
  • Another participant expresses concern that energy conversion in thermoelectric coolers is irreversible, comparing it to the impossibility of generating electricity from a freon refrigerator.
  • Some participants propose that the thermoelectric effect is reversible but acknowledge that the efficiency of using a cooler as a generator would be low.
  • There is a suggestion that if the cooler can be reversed, it could theoretically serve as a generator, albeit inefficiently, and that its performance would be limited by Carnot efficiency based on the temperature difference.
  • One participant notes that thermoelectric generators are more practical than initially thought, referencing external sources for further information on their efficiency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reversibility of thermoelectric coolers and their efficiency as generators. No consensus is reached regarding the practicality or effectiveness of using a cooler in this manner.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential limitations regarding the efficiency of thermoelectric coolers and the implications of high temperatures, but these aspects remain unresolved within the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring thermoelectric applications, particularly those considering cost-effective alternatives for energy generation or cooling solutions.

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The title should be self explanatory, the only reason I ask this is because thermoelectric coolers are ridiculously cheap compared to a thermoelectric generator.

Is there anything I need to check when using a cooler as a generator, I am expecting temperatures on the cold to be around 20C and hot around 200C. Would high temperatures damage the coolers even though are rated high enough?
 
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I am afraid the energy conversion is irreversible in the thermoelectric cooler. It is like as one cannot generate electricity by cooling a freon refrigerator.
 
i believe it is reversible
but inefficient

get one and give it a try.

the thermocouple effect works both ways

but any fans or active electronics will have to be dealt with separately.
 
Thermoelectric cooler is inefficient by itself. If a reverted action is possible, according to logics, the inefficient thermoel. cooler could be turned into an efficient electricity generator ?!
 
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...efficient electricity generator ?!

a not very efficient one i would think.

It'd be of course limited by Carnot efficiency, difference between hot and cold sources.

A google search on 'thermo electric generator efficiency' took me to several outfits selling them. They're more practical than i thought.



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