Can an Electrical Engineering MSc Lead to a Physics PhD?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential for an MSc in Electrical Engineering (EE) to serve as a pathway to a PhD in Physics, particularly in relation to the requirements and perceptions of academic programs. Participants explore the implications of transitioning from an undergraduate degree in physics to a master's in EE, and how this might affect admission into various PhD programs in physics or engineering.

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  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether an MSc in EE can 'bridge the gap' to a PhD in physics, noting that funding for an MSc in Physics is challenging unless one is highly qualified.
  • Concerns are raised about whether an EE master's would be sufficient for theoretical physics PhD programs, with some suggesting it may be more acceptable for experimental physics.
  • Another participant suggests that pursuing a master's in physics would be a more straightforward route to a physics PhD, while acknowledging that some have successfully transitioned from physics to EE.
  • There is mention of a lecturer who transitioned from EE to a PhD in physics, indicating that individual circumstances and self-study may play significant roles in such transitions.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the generalizability of experiences, emphasizing that success in switching fields may depend on various factors, including luck and individual capabilities.
  • One participant advises against settling for a degree that isn't the first choice, highlighting the importance of personal interest in coursework and thesis topics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of transitioning from an MSc in EE to a PhD in Physics. While some believe it is possible under certain conditions, others emphasize the challenges and the preference for a more direct path through a physics master's program. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the variability in admission criteria across different PhD programs and the potential influence of individual academic backgrounds and personal circumstances on the transition between fields.

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Will an electrical engineering MSc 'bridge the gap' between an undergraduate degree and entry into a PhD programme in the same way an MPhys?

I have a BSc in physics but need either an MPhys or and MSc in Physics to get straight on to the PhD I'm interested in. The trouble is it's hard to find funding for an MSc in Physics unless you are the best.

Currently, I guess an EE masters will be enough to get onto a PhD course in certain areas of experimental physics but I'm not sure it will be enough to get onto a theoretical physics PhD programme. Is this correct?

It's interesting, one of my lecturers who works in string theory obtained his undergrad in EE and then went straight to Carnegie Mellon to do a PhD in physics, but he probably studied a lot of physics in his own time, and is an incredibly smart guy.
 
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Why you asking us? Ask the admissions officer for the PhD you are interested in.
 
mal4mac said:
Why you asking us? Ask the admissions officer for the PhD you are interested in.

Thanks for the help. You came across sounding really smart.
 
MegaJon, if I understand correctly, you want to pursue Electrical Engineering now. Is that right? If so, a masters in electrical engineering will make it easier to get into a PhD program in the same. I am unfamiliar with MPhys, but if the MSc is similar to an MS, then you have a very good chance. I know of people who did their bachelors' in physics and moved on to electrical engineering, with a masters and a PhD.

Whether an EE masters will make the task of getting into a PhD program in physics more easy or difficult is something I can say nothing about. I would suppose it depends on a number of factors.

All the same, if its physics you want to pursue, get a masters in physics and then a PhD in physics. If its EE you want to do, get a masters and PhD in EE. Getting a PhD in the same subject as the masters is definitely a more straightforward route than switching fields after the masters. This does not mean it is impossible. There are people who have switched to engineering after a masters in physics. In some EE departments, a physics degree is concerned an asset for PhD. Elsewhere, they can be choosy.

Beyond that, you have to be lucky to run into people who realize your worth and interest and appreciate the fact that you have tried to strike a balance. Or you have to be very very good (the example of your professor who switched to theoretical physics from EE). Most physicists I have met disagree because their belief (perhaps rightful) is that it is impossible to do so. On the other hand, some electrical engineering professors with whom I have had similar discussions have maintained that this is possible due to the versatility of an EE degree. Switching from EE to physics is a matter of luck, some brilliance on your part, and a whole lot of other factors swaying in your favor. While there have been many such instances, and I am contemplating something similar, this planet isn't the best place to do so. There are just too many rules.

However, do what you like the most. Do not "settle" for a degree which isn't your first choice. Think about your coursework and thesis. It is most important not to regret such things in future.
 
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