Can anyone help with the perception of temperature difference?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perception of temperature differences when exhaling air from the mouth in different ways—specifically, the contrast between blowing air through pursed lips versus a wide-open mouth. Participants explore the underlying reasons for these sensations, including the role of surrounding air and molecular motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a difficulty in understanding why air feels cold when blown through pursed lips and warm when exhaled with a wider mouth, questioning the relationship between molecular motion and temperature perception.
  • Another participant explains that the cold sensation is due to the air around the face being pushed by the exhaled air, and that a wider mouth releases more warm air compared to pursed lips.
  • A different participant emphasizes that the air is actually warmer when exhaled from a wide-open mouth, clarifying that the motion of air molecules does not directly correlate with temperature perception.
  • One participant introduces the analogy of a swarm of insects to illustrate that high molecular motion does not imply a net movement of air, suggesting that the temperature felt is more related to the source of the air rather than its speed.
  • Another participant questions whether the lower pressure created by blowing air contributes to the perception of cooler air, reflecting on the relationship between the air inside the body and the surrounding air.
  • One participant expresses understanding after receiving explanations, noting that the surrounding air is at a lower temperature than the air from the body, and shares a personal experiment that supports this view.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the reasons behind the temperature perception, with some agreeing on the role of surrounding air and others questioning the principles behind the phenomenon. The discussion remains unresolved regarding a universal theory that might explain the experience.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention concepts such as adiabatic cooling and molecular motion, but there are no settled definitions or comprehensive theories provided to fully explain the phenomena discussed.

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For some reason I'm having a difficult time understanding the reason why air 'feels' cold when you tighten your lips and blow air from your body, yet it 'feels' hot as you exhale with a widened mouth.

Why is this so? The only reason why I'm having considerable difficulty is because I keep thinking of the motions of the molecules. If they are moving fast, the air should be hot right? I am a layman, and this question may seem simple, but I want to understand in detail as to why this is happening.

Is this particular phenomena similar to wind or a breeze? And how it feels cold? Can someone provide some insight on this? Thanks.
 
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The cold air you feel is the air around your face that is pushed by the air coming out of your mouth. When you open your mouth you have a much greater amount of warm air coming out than when your lips are puckered, so you can feel the warm air.

Try this. Pucker your lips and put your hand right up to your lips and blow. You will be able to feel warm air.
 
llstanfield said:
For some reason I'm having a difficult time understanding the reason why air 'feels' cold when you tighten your lips and blow air from your body, yet it 'feels' hot as you exhale with a widened mouth.
The air actually is warmer when you open your mouth wider. It's not just a feeling.

Why is this so? The only reason why I'm having considerable difficulty is because I keep thinking of the motions of the molecules. If they are moving fast, the air should be hot right? I am a layman, and this question may seem simple, but I want to understand in detail as to why this is happening.
Don't confuse the motion of the molecules with the motion of the air.

Think of a swarm of flying insects. These swarms frequently seem to hover over one point on the ground. When that happens, the insects are constantly moving around with high velocities, but the swarm itself isn't moving at all.

The same is true of the molecules in the air. At room temperature, the average air molecule is moving at about 450 meters per second, despite the fact that the air in the room is "at rest". The air isn't moving because all the molecules are moving in different directions, so the air as a whole doesn't go anywhere, just like the swarm of mosquitoes doesn't necessarily go anywhere even though the mosquitoes are whizzing around like crazy.

With the air molecules moving at 450 meters per second, how much difference do you think it makes that you blow them out of your mouth at an additional 1 meter per second? That does add some energy, but it is insignificant relative to the amount of heat already in the air. It has almost no effect on the temperature that you feel.

The explanation is actually quite simple. Air blown out of your wide-open mouth feels warm because it is at body temperature, which is warm. If you instead produce a narrow jet by pursing your lips, the air is cooler because most of the air in the jet comes from the surroundings instead of coming out of your mouth. (Note: there might also be a small adiabatic cooling effect as the air expands after leaving your mouth. This is, at best, responsible for a small part of the effect.)
 
Okay, so you're saying that it has to do with the air around me? Is the lower pressure (generated by me blowing) causing the perception of cooler air then? I never considered the relationship between the air inside my body and the air around me.

In addition I did put my finger closer to my lips as I puckered and exhaled the air by the way, and it does indeed feel warmer! Thanks for that suggestion.

But perhaps, is there some principle behind this? Or any universal theory that explains this experience?

Thanks for your time.
 
eigenperson said:
The explanation is actually quite simple. Air blown out of your wide-open mouth feels warm because it is at body temperature, which is warm. If you instead produce a narrow jet by pursing your lips, the air is cooler because most of the air in the jet comes from the surroundings instead of coming out of your mouth. (Note: there might also be a small adiabatic cooling effect as the air expands after leaving your mouth. This is, at best, responsible for a small part of the effect.)

Oh, now I think I understand. Thanks for your response. So in a general sense, it's because the air surrounding me is at a lower temperature than the air coming from my body..which has the "cooler" perception of temperature. Am I accurate in this response?

Wow, I never thought of that! Now it kind of makes sense. I actually conducted a little experiment to corroborate your explanation.

As I had my mouth widened, and exhaled, I had my hand held at a LARGER distance...and felt cool air! So perhaps you were right, that the molecular interactions are negligent when talking about a HUGE volume of the surrounding air. Thanks for helping me again.
 

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