Can heat transfer break an equilibrium?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of heat transfer and its relationship to thermal equilibrium, particularly focusing on whether heat transfer can disrupt an equilibrium state between a metal and air at room temperature. Participants explore the implications of heat capacity and temperature in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario involving a metal at room temperature and questions whether heat transfer would occur if the temperature of both the metal and air were set to a specific degree that exceeds the heat capacity of the metal but not that of the air.
  • Another participant challenges the idea of setting a temperature that "crosses" a heat capacity, suggesting that it is a misinterpretation of thermodynamic principles and questions whether the metal and air would reach a common temperature.
  • A third participant seeks clarification on the phrase "temperature crossing heat capacity," indicating confusion about the terminology used.
  • A fourth participant emphasizes that heat transfer occurs from higher to lower temperatures and asserts that if two objects are at the same temperature, no heat will flow between them, regardless of their material properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between temperature, heat capacity, and heat transfer, indicating that multiple competing interpretations exist and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of heat capacity and temperature, as well as the assumptions about thermal equilibrium and heat transfer principles that are not fully articulated.

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Here is one scenario:

I have placed a metal in my room which is at room temperature. Air has little much heat capacity and metals don't like to store heat. Would heat transfer occur? Whatif I set the temperature of both to a certain degree where it crosses heat capacity of metal but not of air?
 
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You can't set a temperature at a value where it crosses a heat capacity. It's kind of comparing apples to oranges.
Are you trying to imply the room and the metal bar won't reach a common temperature?
 
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What do you mean by temperature crossing heat capacity.
 
gaurav_samanta said:
I have placed a metal in my room which is at room temperature. Air has little much heat capacity and metals don't like to store heat. Would heat transfer occur?
Heat capacity aside, the really important principle of thermodynamics is not complicated --- heat flows from higher temperatures to lower temperatures. Put two objects (like metal and air) together with the same temperature, and no heat will flow between them, regardless of the materials they are made of.
 
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