Can I use one hydraulic pump for two identical motors?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the selection of a hydraulic motor for driving a vehicle's wheel, specifically addressing the required starting torque of 18.3Nm to overcome static friction. Participants also explore the feasibility of using a single hydraulic pump to drive two identical hydraulic motors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the starting torque required for a hydraulic motor to move a vehicle, emphasizing the importance of starting torque over running torque.
  • Another participant provides links to resources for hydraulic motor selection and emphasizes the need for additional parameters such as desired rpm and power outputs.
  • It is noted that the relationship between pressure, displacement, torque, rpm, and power is crucial for understanding hydraulic systems.
  • Some participants assert that it is possible to drive two motors with one pump, though specifics may depend on the system design.
  • A participant expresses difficulty finding information on starting torque in manufacturer data sheets, specifically seeking a formula to derive starting torque from running torque.
  • Another participant suggests that starting torque typically depends on the motor's construction and provides a link to a manufacturer that specializes in high starting torque motors.
  • It is mentioned that starting torque for gear and vane hydraulic motors is generally around 70% of their continuous torque rating, according to some sources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of starting torque and the feasibility of using one pump for two motors. However, there is no consensus on the specific values or formulas for calculating starting torque, and differing opinions exist regarding the characteristics of various hydraulic motors.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific formulas for calculating starting torque from running torque and the dependence on manufacturer specifications for accurate data.

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Hello
I need guidance on selection of a hydraulic motor.
Motor would be used to drive the wheel of a vehicle. Motor needs to generate a torque of 18.3Nm in order to overcome static friction and move the vehicle. And the motor needs to be small enough to be coupled with the tire (see the picture)

From where should i start?
And can a single hydraulic pump be used to drive 2 identical hydraulic motors?
 

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Welcome. Here's a starting point: http://www.baumhydraulics.com/pages.php?pageid=4
 
Here's another one: http://www.hydraproducts.co.uk/hydraulic-calculators.aspx

You also need to know the desired rpm and power outputs as well to identify the pump/motor you need.

Basically (in SI units):

pressure X displacement = torque
torque X rpm = power
displacement X rpm = flow rate
pressure X flow rate = power

And yes, you can drive 2 motors with one pump.
 
thanks a lot for your answers.
I've checked out the links you provided.
I've been browsing manufacturers of hydraulic motors and checking out their data sheets to see their rpm and torque ratings.
the problem is that in all the data sheets I've seen they did not mention the stating torque which is the torque required to start turning a load. They give the running torque.
In my application the most important thing that i need is a starting torque of 18.3Nm. Running torque is the late story when the motor has gained certain rpm. I don't need a torque of 18.3Nm when motor is in running condition with some hundred rpm. I need the 18.3Nm torque when the vehicle is stationary and the motor is struggling to turn my wheels.
Is there any specific formula to calculate the starting torque from the running torque?
Or if you know any catalogues or manufacturer websites that would give this information kindly inform me.
 
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At one point, you will have to talk with the manufacturers, as this will depends on the construction of the motor. For example, http://www.stfmotor.com/pid14649/starting+torque+hydraulic+motor.htm built especially for high starting torque claims 90% of running value.
 
Yes...i also found in some websites that generally the starting torque of gear and vane hydraulic motors would be around 70 percent of their continues torque rating
 

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