Can Light's Acceleration Be Changed?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of changing the acceleration of light, particularly in different media and under various conditions such as gravitational fields. Participants explore theoretical implications and conditions affecting light's behavior in vacuum and through materials with varying properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether light can have an acceleration, noting that in a vacuum, light travels at a constant speed (c) and thus has zero acceleration.
  • Others suggest that in a medium with a varying index of refraction, light's velocity could change, implying a non-zero acceleration if the index changes over time.
  • A participant raises the concept of light's behavior in a gravitational field, suggesting that light can be affected by gravity, potentially bending as if it were being accelerated.
  • There is a discussion about whether light can be considered to accelerate in curved spacetime, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the implications of this on light's trajectory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of light's acceleration, with multiple competing views on how light behaves in different contexts, such as vacuum versus media and gravitational fields.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of acceleration and velocity in different contexts, particularly regarding light's behavior in vacuum and through materials with varying properties. There are also unresolved questions about the implications of gravitational effects on light's trajectory.

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is it possible to continuously change the acceleration of light?
 
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you mean within some type of material of, say, varying density?
 
Fullperson said:
is it possible to continuously change the acceleration of light?

That depens on the medium.

In vacuum it does not make sense to talk about "the" acceleration of light, as for all we know it is instantenous.
 
is it possible to elaborate more on this instantaneous of light's acceleration?
 
The light is in a vacuum
 
I'm a bit unclear; does light have an acceleration? Are we talking about propagation, like through a medium, or the actual speed of a photon? AFAIK, photons do not accelerate; theytravel at c always.
 
Fullperson said:
The light is in a vacuum

then the velocity is always c, so the acceleration is zero.

sorry to say this, but the original question doesn't make much sense... I tried to interpret what you were saying in terms of light traveling through a medium characterized by index of refraction 'n' in which the velocity of the light is v=c/n...

so, in this case, we could suppose that there is a non-zero acceleration if the index of refraction changes with time, like in a gas that gets heated and expands (the change in density changes n).

If you are thinking of something different then you should try to explain yourself further.
 
what would happen to light if it were passed through a medium with a continuously changing index of refraction?
 
the velocity of light would change (if the index of refraction changed) according to v=c/n.

if you call the acceleration a=dv/dt

then, in terms of the rate of change of the index of refraction dn/dt, we have
[tex] a=\frac{-c}{n^2}\frac{dn}{dt}[/tex]
 
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olgranpappy said:
then the velocity is always c, so the acceleration is zero. /QUOTE]

Hey, olgranpappy. Classically light can accelerate normal to it's trajectory in a gravitational field, but I don't think this answers the intent of the question...

In general, and in a curved spacetime light can vary in velocity with respect to a nonlocal inertial frame, I think. I don't think this was the intent of the question either.

By the way, thanks for the help with the electromagnetism question I had.
 
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Phrak said:
By the way, thanks for the help with the electromagnetism question I had.

me? oh... no problem. you're welcome.
 
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What about light passing through a gravitational field? I recall some statements that light bends as if it were being accelerated "inwards" by the gravitational field. If this is true, than what happens if a beam of light is directed towards the center of the gravitational field, for example, aimed directly at a black hole? ... or do gravitational fields have some "magical" property that only accelerates light perpendicular to the lights direction of travle, but doesn't accelerate the light in it's direction of travel?
 

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